How to not kegel while having sex

[pony2stallion]

That's going to be difficult: if you squeeze the glans, you involuntarily contract the anus after. I think it's a reflex.

[Mello Jello]

i have found that stance, position, and thrusting style while having sex helps relax the kegal.

what immediatly comes to mind is when on top keeping a wide base with the knees and ones ass out. the thrusts should be a combination of hip rolls and tilting the hips to throw the thrust forward and back, a trick to avoid overstimulating the frenulum is to position your pelvis slightly above hers so you are rubbing the top of your shaft against her clit while thrusting. I should also mention that putting some pillows under the girls ass makes the postion a lot easier to work it good.

the wide base and the ass out puts a stretch on the pelvic floor and the thrust style doesnt clench the glutes on the foreward thrust, which i found leads to ejaculating sooner and most likely from strong rhythmic involuntary kegals. If your like me and you have problems becoming physically exhausted before cuming then putting your elbows on the bed, bending her legs with her knees in the crooks of your arms or on you chest, or the back of her knees over your shoulders can keep you going for the long haul and keep the position varied. Also try it with her legs together and your knees outside of hers while she is face up or face down, and she can lay on her side in in a not quite fetal position for a transitional postion between face up and face down.

I was doing this before learning about kegals and reverse kegals.

[thomasthetankengine]

For me, squeezing the PC muscle triggers an orgasm. This, like many men, is due to the furtive style of masturbating as a kid. Parents go to buy groceries, you beat one out as quick as you can for the pleasure that comes with ejaculating. This has trained my body to unconsciously kegel during masturbation/sex, leading to premature ejaculation. I physically cannot stop myself from kegeling. The instant I stimulate my unit my PC muscle tightens up, and when I cease stimulation I can feel my muscle relax again. I've tried really hard to "retrain" my brain to not tighten my PC muscle, but I don't know how.

Am I right to think that this is probably the main culprit of my PE? If so, what can I do to retrain my PC muscle?

The whole theory of us training our PC muscles to prematurely ejaculate sounds like bullshit to me. I've never done a rushed ejaculation (I've had privacy pretty much my whole wanking life) and tried to finish quickly but my PC muscle causes me to ejaculate quicker as well. That's probably because our bodies are wired like that normally. I've also never seen any real evidence for that theory.

[ammonite]

I'm evidence.

When I first masturbated, it was hard to achieve orgasm, sometimes I even gave up it took so long. Then, I connected kegels (even though I didn't know that's what they were; I discovered them as a side effect of tightening my legs) to increased pleasure. My kegels got stronger, and I got more used to doing them, untill I could kegel myself to orgasm instantly.

When I discovered this was bad, I tried to stop the kegels, but of course found it impossible. Now, through a combination of reverse kegels and mind tricks, I can generally stop them, but it's not like the ideal situation I had all those years ago. I personally believe males should be better educated about this at a younger age; if I had known, I'm pretty certain I would never have had Pre E.

Now I'm not saying everyone is like this, some people may be "wired" that way from the start, (I have a whole list of causes in the link in my signature, only 2 are to do with rushed masturbation) but I know I wasn't. If you try and hold a kegel during masturbation, you'll notice how much better it feels and it is easy to see how that could become a habit deeply ingrained into ones muscle memory.

[thomasthetankengine]

I'm evidence.

When I first masturbated, it was hard to achieve orgasm, sometimes I even gave up it took so long. Then, I connected kegels (even though I didn't know that's what they were; I discovered them as a side effect of tightening my legs) to increased pleasure. My kegels got stronger, and I got more used to doing them, untill I could kegel myself to orgasm instantly.

When I discovered this was bad, I tried to stop the kegels, but of course found it impossible. Now, through a combination of reverse kegels and mind tricks, I can generally stop them, but it's not like the ideal situation I had all those years ago. I personally believe males should be better educated about this at a younger age; if I had known, I'm pretty certain I would never have had Pre E.

Now I'm not saying everyone is like this, some people may be "wired" that way from the start, (I have a whole list of causes in the link in my signature, only 2 are to do with rushed masturbation) but I know I wasn't. If you try and hold a kegel during masturbation, you'll notice how much better it feels and it is easy to see how that could become a habit deeply ingrained into ones muscle memory.

Do you remember kegelling with a full erection and it NOT making you ejaculate quicker?

[thomasthetankengine]

PE happens for me regardless of kegeling. Kegeling just causes it to happen quicker. At a 100% erection I cum within a few strokes whether I'm kegeling, reverse kegeling or doing nothing.

[ammonite]

Kegels have always had that effect on me. Just, as I got better at doing them, their effect increased. I should also point out that I was doing this mostly sub conciously. Try and pay closer attention to your body, it may trun out you're doing something you don't think you are.

[thomasthetankengine]

Kegels have always had that effect on me. Just, as I got better at doing them, their effect increased. I should also point out that I was doing this mostly sub conciously. Try and pay closer attention to your body, it may trun out you're doing something you don't think you are.

But if they always had that effect, what makes you think that it's possible for them NOT to have the effect?

[Pegasus]

Read my work and understand it, then Minutemans work and understand that. You will learn a lot ,then put it into practise and have the proof for yourself.

[thomasthetankengine]

Read my work and understand it, then Minutemans work and understand that. You will learn a lot ,then put it into practise and have the proof for yourself.

Been there, done that. If one person's experience constitutes "proof", then I guess I have for myself "proof" that exercises don't work.