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    hi yesterday i accidently found that pressing hard on the top shaft of errect penis where the dorsal nerve is going can pull me back a little when about to cross PONR (9.9 on arousal scale)... like stepping on a break at last moment... in my case i have to press and hold hard with my thumb on the top plane of the penis shaft near pubic bone... it seems like this pressure blocks the nerve to send signals of touch sensation to brain - the brain literally "feels" less excitation coming from penis - its like stepping on a garden water hose

    this is just an observation i thought to post for further discussion, i didnt have time to research this further - i dont know if its worth any research or IF ITS SAFE to press hard on a nerve without causing damage or malfunction in the long run...

    penis dorsal nerve are those 2 YELLOW BRANCHES running along top plane of penis
    http://edrv.endojournals.org/content...2/F1.large.jpg

    there is a lot of research on PC Muscle but almost no research on the VERY THING that makes you "feel" the stimulation (stroking, thrusting, touching) and that is PENIS DORSAL NERVE - it is literally "the nerve" that tells your brain that you are fucking or mastrubating or touching your penis shaft or glans - hypotetically cutting this nerve means you dont feel ANY sensation in your penis...

    i researched PENIS DORSAL NERVE on google and found out that

    a) penis dorsal nerve is the MAIN nerve that transmits pleasure from penis to brain - aka this nerve tells your brain that you are stroking your penis shaft and glans and the excitation of this very nerve brings up arousal... so overstimulation (crossing excitation threshold of this nerve path) triggers the process of ejaculation

    b) penis shaft as well as penis glans are both enervated by PENIS DORSAL NERVE

    c) there is already some research on surgicaly altering this nerve (sub-dermal cuts) to cure premature ejaculation and lower penis sensitivity (although this stuff is scary and still not well established in doctors community... so too much surgery to PERNIS DORSAL NERVE can render you feeling NOTHING when being touched or stimulated on penis... aka you will most likely have various erection problems because your brain have ZERO stimulation to get you going and be aroused/excited)

    d) some reserach suggests that premature ejaculation could be caused by increased density (more branches) and thickness in micrometres (thicker branches) of penis dorsal nerves running inside penis shaft (normal is about 2-3 main branches runnig though penis shaft while PE suferers may have more and thicker branches and more sub-branches) - that might be why PORN ACTORS are "naturals" in long stamina - they just have less and thinner PENIS DORSAL NERVE branches, so they feel stimulation but not as overhelming as PE suferers who have oversensitive penis shaft and glans due to denser and thicker branching of PENIS DORSAL NERVE

    ITS FASCINATING how much different a human body can be from one individual to another... in case of such tiny details like PENIS DORSAL NERVE branches and thickness (in micrometres - thousands of milimetre) - these can be huge contributors (along with other body and nervous system factors) why some people can act in PORN MOVIES while others have great difficulty learning to last 4 minutes...


    quick sum-up quote from the below science paper: The average number of dorsal penile nerves in these patients with PPE (Primary Premature Ejaculation) was 7.16 branches, which was far greater than the average value of 3.55 branches. And thats AVERAGE among the PPE sufferers... there are cases of PPE patients with 11 branches in this study !!! talk about sensitivity !!!

    full paper on the FASCINATING branch difference in adult males here: http://www.cmj.org/ch/reader/create_...r_id=24&falg=1

    e) PENIS DORSAL NERVE has a direct woman counterpart called DORSAL NERVE OF CLITORIS - so same as penis shaft and glans "feels" stimulation through PENIS DORSAL NERVE, clitoris "feels" stimulation through DORSAL NERVE OF CLITORIS - remember those researches that say that as much as 70% women CAN'T reach orgasm through penetration only, they need some form of stimulation of clitoris (aka DORSAL NERVE OF CLITORIS) to be able to climax at all - DORSAL NERVE OF CLITORIS is the essential "get off" nerve for up to 70% woman

    http://www.nva.org/images/vulvar_anatomy_2.jpg

    f) FYI PENIS DORSAL NERVE is not the ONLY nerve transmitting sensation from penis shaft and glans, there is also PERINEAL NERVE, that inervates bottom plane of penis shaft and scrotum but its safe to say that PENIS DORSAL NERVE transmits 80% of the sensations of thrusting into brain... again there are huge differences in human body so there are individuals who "feel" more sensation through PERINEAL NERVE than others... but the major scientific consensus is that DORSAL NERVE is the main "feeling" nerve for stimulation of most parts of penis shaft and glans...

    quick view of nerve distribution: https://www.pegym.com/forums/attachm...chmentid=26839
    detailed research: http://www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/Inn...lans_Penis.pdf

    g) the route if you go from penis up the nervous system is as folows: PENIS DORSAL NERVE and PERINEAL NERVE (as well as few other nerves in pelvic region) join together in pelvic region to form a PUDENDAL NERVE that goes up through your sacral bone where it joins into SPINE and up the BRAIN...

    File:Pudendal nerve.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://www.corept.org/media/img/3464...edial_view.jpg

    Well this is all said just to shed a light on the actual "feeling" mechanism of arousal and excitation leading to triggering of orgasm by your brain... the transport path from penis shaft and glans to brain and its main component (the feeling sensor) THE DORSAL NERVE OF PENIS... Maybe someone will have a genuine idea how to gain more control over this DORSAL NERVE... there is number of alternative approaches to health and body from ACCUPUNCTURE, ACCUPRESURE, YOGA, MASSAGE, BREATH TECHNIQUES, HERBAL MEDICINE, and others...

    I posted what i know at this very moment out here so others can digest it and maybe some new approach to PE causes and fixes might collectivelly come up out of all ours subconsciousnes HEHE
    CURRENT
    BPEL 7.24in/18.40cm | NBPEL 6.02in/15.30cm | FATPAD 1.22in/3.10cm
    MSEG 6.49in/16.50cm | WIDTH 2.28in/5.80cm | HEIGHT 1.73in/4.40cm

    GOAL (+0.73in/1.84cm)
    BPEL 7.97in/20.24cm | NBPEL 6.75in/17.14cm
    MSEG 6.49in/16.50cm

    NBPEL 6.75 / MSEG 6.49 ENOUGH FOR ANY WOMEN TO SEND HER TO STRATOSPHERE

  • #2
    i will try and post the result, however whatever you just said does make sense. i have heard it from some of my indian colleagues as well that as per their old rituals pressing with fore finger and thumb right at base of the penis prevents you from getting to PONR.
    Started PE in January 2013 on JP90
    NBPEL=4.9 BPEL=5.6 EG=4.6

    Stats July 2013
    NBPEL=5.6 BPEL=6.5 BEG=5.2

    Break for 8 months due to work

    Stats Sep 2014
    NBPEL=6 BPEL=6.7 BEG=5.2

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    • #3
      would love to hear more about ancient techniques using the PENIS DORSAL NERVE... the main nerve branches enter penis shaft at the base runing towards the glans along the top plane... so in my case only pressing at the top plane of shaft had any effect... pressing on bottom plane where soft tube of urethra runs doesnt do much to me...

      i hope this thread gets some replies or suggestions otherwise it will die away and get moved on page 30 of the forum...

      there is lot of muscle work discussed (mainly PC muscles) but not much nerve and central nervous system work discussed... we will see if anyone have any idea how to work with the DORSAL NERVE without surgery - which by the way is becoming the hot new treatment for premature ejaculation although still in experimental stages...
      CURRENT
      BPEL 7.24in/18.40cm | NBPEL 6.02in/15.30cm | FATPAD 1.22in/3.10cm
      MSEG 6.49in/16.50cm | WIDTH 2.28in/5.80cm | HEIGHT 1.73in/4.40cm

      GOAL (+0.73in/1.84cm)
      BPEL 7.97in/20.24cm | NBPEL 6.75in/17.14cm
      MSEG 6.49in/16.50cm

      NBPEL 6.75 / MSEG 6.49 ENOUGH FOR ANY WOMEN TO SEND HER TO STRATOSPHERE

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      • #4
        Could a cockring or some other special cockring work/help in this matter?
        Started MAY 2011 BPEL 5 and a 1/2 inches. EG 5 and a 1/2 inches.
        Now MAY 2012 BPEL 6 and a 1/2 inches. EG 5 and a 1/2 inches.
        I have cured myself of prem ejac, now I am working on a bigger shlong.

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        • #5
          I'm seriously looking into this.

          A bit about me and my situation, it pertains just keep reading

          I'm 40yrs old 5'-10" 175lbs
          fit and healthy don't really drink (a beer now and then), stopped smoking 5 years ago now,
          I've been active my whole life and worked physical jobs my whole life.

          I've had PE ever since the first time I can remember masturbating
          First sexual encounter (at 15) I lasted 5 strokes
          Second maybe 10 strokes, Her and I tried it on weed, alcohol and speed. always with the same result
          On my third encounter I was on angle dust and it stayed hard through 4 of my own orgasms and one of hers
          So that was better but I still only got 20 strokes between my own orgasms
          I had a few more encounters from 19-25 all with the same results 10-20 strokes and I was done
          Needless to say to this point I really don't feel like much of a man
          What use is this thing if I can't last?

          At 23 I started thinking this isn't getting better with age or practice so I started looking into fixes.

          so I start figuring myself out
          1 It doesn't matter at all if I rub one out before an encounter
          First round 10-20 strokes, recover, second round 15-25 strokes, recover, third round 15-25 strokes
          2 this has happened ever since I started touching myself/having sex
          3 sometimes I can orgasm from just flexing my PC intensely and not even touching myself
          4 through oral I can last indefinitely (well 3 to 5 mins)
          5 condom, NO condom doesn't change any of it (condom adds 2-4 strokes)

          Start doing reading and checking out all the porn mag adds and buying books
          they all say do keggels or start stop the squeeze practice practice practice

          So I start trying a lot of this stuff while masturbating
          Start stop- go 30 strokes stop, wait 1 min, go 5 strokes right back to peek, repeat, same 5 strokes
          My body never calms down

          Keggels- I can lift a bowling ball my PC is so strong, doesn't help at all, doesn't make it worse either

          Squeeze- ads maybe 5 strokes to the already short time frame

          I decide I'm going to buy a fake Vag to practice with just to get more use to positions and the realism of it all
          I get basically the same results in any position I practice in

          I've also been reading about pills specially for PE and other natural supplements that are sposto help
          So I've spent a fortune in money and time trying any that I can get my hands on

          I start reading some stuff online about numbing creams and sprays
          So I buy any and all of them that I can find
          Now with a condom Stud spray and Rock hard power cream work amazing
          I can go for 30 40 50 mins of hard non stop pounding
          the second I take off the condom 20 strokes and it's over

          It's been 4 years now of trial and error of everything and anything I can get my hands on
          So I decide to see a therapist
          He basically outlines a start stop program with a squeeze technique
          telling me this solves 85% of mens problems
          So I give it a shot (even though I've tried it on my own) and document the results for him
          He says lets get you on Prozac
          I'll give anything a try at this point
          I go on prozac 1 week in and I'm screwing like a porn star
          Mim time frame is an hour and I basically have to force myself to blast
          it's amazing aside from feeling like an emotional zombie and being on a mind altering drug

          After 4 months I stop taking prozac, I can't handle anything else about it but the sexual side effect and it's just not worth it

          So I go back to drawing board and start doing more research, as theres numerous new forums out discussing an all natural alternative

          Histamines- no change after 6 months of anti histos
          Magnesium- no change 4 months
          St. johns wort- no change after 6 months
          you name it I've tried it and it's usually the best supplements with the most research money can buy
          so I'm not skimping on the products

          Reverse Keggels- Hey this is new and helping some guys
          I Start doing them religiously
          I'm also doing Pelvic floor stretches and massage on my own through my anus
          after 9-10 months of this I decide i'll bust out the fake vag and try this
          first time I fail, It's actually worse then it's ever been (I get 5 strokes and done)
          don't give up, I try the next day and I get the same results

          At this point I'm 40yrs old I've wasted a fortune in time and money on anything and everything out here
          The only thing that's remotely helped is Prozac (too much risk) and a couple numbing creams with specific ingredients

          I really don't know what to do with myself
          So I google "permanently numb glans"

          And it returns "Penis Banding" among other results

          Now I know this isn't going to be for everyone as it's kind of extreme
          But for me after 30+ years of this frustration I'm willing to try anything

          So I break out a rubber band and the Power cream to numb my junk
          I band, just below the glans, for 30 min, off for 30 min, band, off, band, off
          I do 5, 30 min sessions total

          Holly crap
          I go slow at first then start pounding away and I continue for an hour
          changing positions, harder, faster, slower

          to quote my Wife "What have you done with my husband?"
          it's made me feel so empowered
          I finally feel like a man

          so I buy an elastrator and 200 bands for it
          the numbness usually starts to fade in 7-10 days so it's not an everyday thing
          I just do it once a week
          But it is mildly painful and takes up time

          so I'm looking into having to Dorsal Nerves cut just below the glans
          I'm a bit nervous of the permanentness of it all but banding is pretty much the exact same over all

          But we'll see I'll most likely end up going down this road

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          • #6
            The techmiques in the pre e forum should work regardless of number of nerve branches.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
              The techmiques in the pre e forum should work regardless of number of nerve branches.

              You would sure think one of them would have helped
              But I've combed through everyone of them
              and tried pretty much every one of them

              So far banding has worked the best

              I've been at it for about 6 months now and it been great plain and simple
              I do 4-30 min sessions once a week and never think about PE again

              Somewhere in all of that mess for a couple years I was working on some of the enlargement exercises (Pumping, Stretcher, Hand work)
              and I had some good gains( 3/4" length, 3/4" girth)

              But I stopped because who cares how big the dam thing is if you can't make it last more than 20 strokes

              So I might start up on Girth only again
              as the wife says it's plenty long

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              • #8
                I hear this "I tried everything" a lot and on research have been satisfied it has not been true. Anyhow if you are happy you are happy.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FedUpTired View Post
                  I'm seriously looking into this.

                  A bit about me and my situation, it pertains just keep reading

                  I'm 40yrs old 5'-10" 175lbs
                  fit and healthy don't really drink (a beer now and then), stopped smoking 5 years ago now,
                  I've been active my whole life and worked physical jobs my whole life.

                  I've had PE ever since the first time I can remember masturbating
                  First sexual encounter (at 15) I lasted 5 strokes
                  Second maybe 10 strokes, Her and I tried it on weed, alcohol and speed. always with the same result
                  On my third encounter I was on angle dust and it stayed hard through 4 of my own orgasms and one of hers
                  So that was better but I still only got 20 strokes between my own orgasms
                  I had a few more encounters from 19-25 all with the same results 10-20 strokes and I was done
                  Needless to say to this point I really don't feel like much of a man
                  What use is this thing if I can't last?

                  At 23 I started thinking this isn't getting better with age or practice so I started looking into fixes.

                  so I start figuring myself out
                  1 It doesn't matter at all if I rub one out before an encounter
                  First round 10-20 strokes, recover, second round 15-25 strokes, recover, third round 15-25 strokes
                  2 this has happened ever since I started touching myself/having sex
                  3 sometimes I can orgasm from just flexing my PC intensely and not even touching myself
                  4 through oral I can last indefinitely (well 3 to 5 mins)
                  5 condom, NO condom doesn't change any of it (condom adds 2-4 strokes)

                  Start doing reading and checking out all the porn mag adds and buying books
                  they all say do keggels or start stop the squeeze practice practice practice

                  So I start trying a lot of this stuff while masturbating
                  Start stop- go 30 strokes stop, wait 1 min, go 5 strokes right back to peek, repeat, same 5 strokes
                  My body never calms down

                  Keggels- I can lift a bowling ball my PC is so strong, doesn't help at all, doesn't make it worse either

                  Squeeze- ads maybe 5 strokes to the already short time frame

                  I decide I'm going to buy a fake Vag to practice with just to get more use to positions and the realism of it all
                  I get basically the same results in any position I practice in

                  I've also been reading about pills specially for PE and other natural supplements that are sposto help
                  So I've spent a fortune in money and time trying any that I can get my hands on

                  I start reading some stuff online about numbing creams and sprays
                  So I buy any and all of them that I can find
                  Now with a condom Stud spray and Rock hard power cream work amazing
                  I can go for 30 40 50 mins of hard non stop pounding
                  the second I take off the condom 20 strokes and it's over

                  It's been 4 years now of trial and error of everything and anything I can get my hands on
                  So I decide to see a therapist
                  He basically outlines a start stop program with a squeeze technique
                  telling me this solves 85% of mens problems
                  So I give it a shot (even though I've tried it on my own) and document the results for him
                  He says lets get you on Prozac
                  I'll give anything a try at this point
                  I go on prozac 1 week in and I'm screwing like a porn star
                  Mim time frame is an hour and I basically have to force myself to blast
                  it's amazing aside from feeling like an emotional zombie and being on a mind altering drug

                  After 4 months I stop taking prozac, I can't handle anything else about it but the sexual side effect and it's just not worth it

                  So I go back to drawing board and start doing more research, as theres numerous new forums out discussing an all natural alternative

                  Histamines- no change after 6 months of anti histos
                  Magnesium- no change 4 months
                  St. johns wort- no change after 6 months
                  you name it I've tried it and it's usually the best supplements with the most research money can buy
                  so I'm not skimping on the products

                  Reverse Keggels- Hey this is new and helping some guys
                  I Start doing them religiously
                  I'm also doing Pelvic floor stretches and massage on my own through my anus
                  after 9-10 months of this I decide i'll bust out the fake vag and try this
                  first time I fail, It's actually worse then it's ever been (I get 5 strokes and done)
                  don't give up, I try the next day and I get the same results

                  At this point I'm 40yrs old I've wasted a fortune in time and money on anything and everything out here
                  The only thing that's remotely helped is Prozac (too much risk) and a couple numbing creams with specific ingredients

                  I really don't know what to do with myself
                  So I google "permanently numb glans"

                  And it returns "Penis Banding" among other results

                  Now I know this isn't going to be for everyone as it's kind of extreme
                  But for me after 30+ years of this frustration I'm willing to try anything

                  So I break out a rubber band and the Power cream to numb my junk
                  I band, just below the glans, for 30 min, off for 30 min, band, off, band, off
                  I do 5, 30 min sessions total

                  Holly crap
                  I go slow at first then start pounding away and I continue for an hour
                  changing positions, harder, faster, slower

                  to quote my Wife "What have you done with my husband?"
                  it's made me feel so empowered
                  I finally feel like a man

                  so I buy an elastrator and 200 bands for it
                  the numbness usually starts to fade in 7-10 days so it's not an everyday thing
                  I just do it once a week
                  But it is mildly painful and takes up time

                  so I'm looking into having to Dorsal Nerves cut just below the glans
                  I'm a bit nervous of the permanentness of it all but banding is pretty much the exact same over all

                  But we'll see I'll most likely end up going down this road
                  Can you give a little more info on the penis banding process you used? How tight did you wrap the bands around your penis? How thick are the bands? Did you use the elastrator each time? Would appreciate any info, thanks.

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                  • #10
                    Bump.Some interesting food for thought.

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                    • #11
                      I like the guy who gave a prolonged post on" trying everything "no log and 2 posts which is pretty typical . Stuff in the post did not make sense also .

                      Re the cockring type stuff from memory one was sold through this site that pushed into this dorsal nerve area.

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                      • #12
                        I believe the mind is more powerful than any ring, band, spray, drug, etc...

                        I believe discipline is the cornerstone to overcoming any obstacle.

                        I agree with Pegasus. The techniques described in the sticky threads will work with patients and focus.

                        I personally have a long way to go but I will help in any way I can and share my journey.

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                        • #13
                          Power to you attention hope you will keep posting.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
                            I like the guy who gave a prolonged post on" trying everything "no log and 2 posts which is pretty typical . Stuff in the post did not make sense also .

                            Re the cockring type stuff from memory one was sold through this site that pushed into this dorsal nerve area.
                            Not having a log or only having two posts doesnt mean anything.There is a life outside pegym too, you know?Also he may randomly popped into this thread and decided to give his two cents and opinion based on his experience.He may doesnt give a shit about this site.Also about the selling thing.People here talk very often about using fleshlight to beat PE, and pegym sell fleshlights.Does it mean this advice is useless?No.Also you say the stuff doesnt make sense, but it only doesnt make sense, based on your point of view and knowledge.You must to be open minded, you know.Once the people thought the Earth is flat.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Attention2Detail View Post
                              I believe the mind is more powerful than any ring, band, spray, drug, etc...

                              I believe discipline is the cornerstone to overcoming any obstacle.

                              I agree with Pegasus. The techniques described in the sticky threads will work with patients and focus.

                              I personally have a long way to go but I will help in any way I can and share my journey.
                              You are giving opinion on what works, and possibily what is less effective, but you still have long way to go?I think a person can give opinion on what really works and what not, when and only when he has gone through everything and in this case, has been cured.

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