Hi all, first time poster long time lurker here. As the title says, I am seeing results with my Pre E problem (thanks to the main contributors to the stickys - you know who you are ) though I still need further advice. This is why I have not posted in the success thread. Anyway, now for my story, I'll try and make it as short as possible.
Like many others here, poor masturbation when I was younger lead to me being trained to ejaculate quickly, and having a very tense pelvic floor (kegelling myself to orgasm.). Because of this, I was a 1 minute man, and had involuntary kegels throughout the day. This leads me to believe that, for most people, Pre E is primarily a physical problem, with the mental aspect kicking in due to poor performace because of the unbalanced pelvic floor. The reason I say this is because, despite having had Pre E myself, I have never had anxiety problems because, being young, I am ready for another round (which you all know lasts much longer) straight after clean up, so Pre E was never really a problem. I also have a strange ability where I am able to keep an erection after ejaculation, so if need be, I can just keep on pumping - I do not feel any pleasure from this until the refractory period is up so this is not something I use often. However, cumming to quickly breaks the mood, and I realise that as I age, it may well take longer to be ready to go again, so I decided to do soemthing about it.
Around a year ago, I discovered reverse kegels on this forum, and almost immediately they had a positive effect. I have never actually followed a routine as such, I just do long reverse kegel holds throughout the day whenever I remember. Like some others have mentioned, my reverse kegels do not seem to have gotten any stronger over the year, but they are now a lot easier to isolate and thus perform for long durations - which I think may give the illusion of strength to some people. Please feel free to share your own experience on this.
Anyway, I used a constant light reverse kegel to hold of involuntarys during sex and was able to go for 3-4 minutes within weeks. Unfortunately, I got stuck at this hurdle, as soon after that, a "wave" of involuntarys would kick in and I would have to stop or ejaculate. This I believe to be the limitation to reverse kegels for many of us. Again, please share your own experience on this.
I was stuck like this for a month or two until I tried something different. I started trying to eliminate involuntary kegels from everyday life. For those of you who have severe problems with involuntarys, you will know that anything and everything can set one off. I had to be careful moving, peeing, you name it. I also used the reverse kegel to help me accomplish this.
So, this is what I have been doing for the past year - practicing reverse kegels and trying to limit the involuntarys. This has been in no way a routine, and has been a very relaxed approach to curing Pre E. BUT, for the results. The average time for my first PONR is now in the region of 10-15 minutes, during this, there are almost no involuntarys at all and I hold a light reverse kegel for the duration. I appreciate that 10-15 minutes is not a marathon, but for those of you who had what I had, it almost seems like one.
So, you ask, if I can go for that time, why do I say I'm not cured? Well, after the 10-15 minutes, I get the quick rush of involuntarys, and then something very strange happens. I have not seen this mentioned before on this forum. My penis "locks up" into the hardest kegel hold ever, and orgasm soon follows. The kegel stays held right through orgasm, and then stops just prior to ejaculation. I can do nothing to stop this except stopping all movement completely. I can not maintain the kegel after orgasm to attempt a dry orgasm, as I have seen some of you mention. I am incapable of orgasiming without this mother of all involunatrys. This is why I say I'm not cured, and would very much like to hear suggestions to help with this, or from others who also expericne this.
My current plan for the future is to continue with the reverse kegels, and try to limit involuntarys. I may also try to desensitise my frenulum by slow rubbing, as I always have an involuntary when this area is touched, and this could be holding back my success.
Again, I would like to thank all who have helped me with this, even though you've never spoken to me- Pegasus, Minuteman, imac, JamesMonroe and especially Spanky. I hope my experience can help people who are struggling, and I hope I'm not just repeating things that have already been said.
Like many others here, poor masturbation when I was younger lead to me being trained to ejaculate quickly, and having a very tense pelvic floor (kegelling myself to orgasm.). Because of this, I was a 1 minute man, and had involuntary kegels throughout the day. This leads me to believe that, for most people, Pre E is primarily a physical problem, with the mental aspect kicking in due to poor performace because of the unbalanced pelvic floor. The reason I say this is because, despite having had Pre E myself, I have never had anxiety problems because, being young, I am ready for another round (which you all know lasts much longer) straight after clean up, so Pre E was never really a problem. I also have a strange ability where I am able to keep an erection after ejaculation, so if need be, I can just keep on pumping - I do not feel any pleasure from this until the refractory period is up so this is not something I use often. However, cumming to quickly breaks the mood, and I realise that as I age, it may well take longer to be ready to go again, so I decided to do soemthing about it.
Around a year ago, I discovered reverse kegels on this forum, and almost immediately they had a positive effect. I have never actually followed a routine as such, I just do long reverse kegel holds throughout the day whenever I remember. Like some others have mentioned, my reverse kegels do not seem to have gotten any stronger over the year, but they are now a lot easier to isolate and thus perform for long durations - which I think may give the illusion of strength to some people. Please feel free to share your own experience on this.
Anyway, I used a constant light reverse kegel to hold of involuntarys during sex and was able to go for 3-4 minutes within weeks. Unfortunately, I got stuck at this hurdle, as soon after that, a "wave" of involuntarys would kick in and I would have to stop or ejaculate. This I believe to be the limitation to reverse kegels for many of us. Again, please share your own experience on this.
I was stuck like this for a month or two until I tried something different. I started trying to eliminate involuntary kegels from everyday life. For those of you who have severe problems with involuntarys, you will know that anything and everything can set one off. I had to be careful moving, peeing, you name it. I also used the reverse kegel to help me accomplish this.
So, this is what I have been doing for the past year - practicing reverse kegels and trying to limit the involuntarys. This has been in no way a routine, and has been a very relaxed approach to curing Pre E. BUT, for the results. The average time for my first PONR is now in the region of 10-15 minutes, during this, there are almost no involuntarys at all and I hold a light reverse kegel for the duration. I appreciate that 10-15 minutes is not a marathon, but for those of you who had what I had, it almost seems like one.
So, you ask, if I can go for that time, why do I say I'm not cured? Well, after the 10-15 minutes, I get the quick rush of involuntarys, and then something very strange happens. I have not seen this mentioned before on this forum. My penis "locks up" into the hardest kegel hold ever, and orgasm soon follows. The kegel stays held right through orgasm, and then stops just prior to ejaculation. I can do nothing to stop this except stopping all movement completely. I can not maintain the kegel after orgasm to attempt a dry orgasm, as I have seen some of you mention. I am incapable of orgasiming without this mother of all involunatrys. This is why I say I'm not cured, and would very much like to hear suggestions to help with this, or from others who also expericne this.
My current plan for the future is to continue with the reverse kegels, and try to limit involuntarys. I may also try to desensitise my frenulum by slow rubbing, as I always have an involuntary when this area is touched, and this could be holding back my success.
Again, I would like to thank all who have helped me with this, even though you've never spoken to me- Pegasus, Minuteman, imac, JamesMonroe and especially Spanky. I hope my experience can help people who are struggling, and I hope I'm not just repeating things that have already been said.
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