Edging For Premature Ejaculation

[Haydos380]

Pegasus, hows it going mate? signed up to talk to you

[Haydos380]

how do I do that?

[pegaso79]

I've restructured the OP yet again, becuase I realise there was a lot of information in there that would make it extremely hard for someone who hasn't been here for very long to understand. So, I've removed as much waffle as I can, changed the order around a bit and improved paragraphing. Hopefully it's much more comprehensible now.

Anyway, I also wanted to write about my current viewpoints on Pre E, and how they've changed throughout my time here.

I have always known, since I very first came here, that my problem was caused probably entirely by bad masturbation habits. By this, I mean rushing to the PONR. I remember when I first discovered masturbation, it took me a very long time to climax, partly because I was inexperienced with my body, but also because I had a normal sexual response. I even remember being able to get into the plateau phase - by plateau phase I mean it felt really good, but I still had control.

However, like many other young people, I was overwhelmed by the sensation of orgasm. That, combined with time constraints and a fear of being caught, meant it was much more convinient to climax quickly. So, I used kegels (unknowingly) to reach orgasm as fast as possible. This is a well known story and many can relate.

The effect of this is twofold, and this is what is less well understood. Firstly, it gives you IK and a tense pelvic floor. Everyone knows this, and the way to reverse it is by reverse kegels, not rushing to the PONR, and using various other relaxtion methods such as yoga and stretches. When I came to PEGym, I thought my problem was entirely physical, because we men prefer things which have a set routine that can fix them, and would rather just ignore that we have some psycological problem, because that is not a manly thing to have. So, I set about using RK and the competing response method and rubbing my sweet spots in an attempt to remove the many IK I had. It was a complete success, and I soon removed most of the tension. However, my Pre E was not fixed. I could edge for hours if I wanted to, but the moment it began to feel good, I got massive IK and climaxed soon after.

This is where the second effect of rushing masturbation comes in. This is less well understood, and is entirely psychological. I'm not talking psychological like performance anxiety, but an involuntary psychological change in the way your brain responds to stimulation You see, rushing to the PONR changes your response to stimulation. Without a scientific background I can't use the correct terms, but by getting to orgasm quickly as a kid, you have changed pathways and chemicals in your brain, so that it automatically associates any pleasure you feel with orgasm. I like to liken this to the way nicotine changes a smokers brain so that they are always craving for another smoke. So, because you have rushed to orgasm so much, it becomes a habit. As soon as you start feeling pleasure, your brain and nervous system on autopilot think "time to ejaculate" and begin sending out the neccessary signals for the process to begin.

In terms of my personal story, once I began aiming for ejaculation, I became better and better at getting there quickly. The time I was in plateau for got shorter and shorter (the use of kegels prevents plateau) until it vanished completely. I literally went from no pleasure staright to almost orgasm. This is not normal. Your pleasure level should cap off at plateau, and stay there for some consdierable time. I had trained myself to go right past the plateau phase.

It stayed that way until one session about 6 months ago when I was tired but relaxed at night and deciced to have an edging session. Because I wasn't really thinking about it, just doing it, I wasn't overanalsying it. After some time, it occured to me that I had some quite pleasurable sensations in my penis. This was odd for me, but I went with it anyway, and before I knew it, I was feeling something which was almost orgasmic. In fact, I wrote it down in my log as a soft wave orgasm, thats how intense it was. However, this was simply the plateau phase, but because I wasn't used to feeling so much pleasure without orgamsing I didn't know what it was. As I've got more used to it, the pleasure isn't quite so overwhelming, but stills feels damn good, it occured to me that this is what guys without Pre e must feel all the time. This is how it is meant to be.

Now I know my story of how I got into plateau probably isn't that helpful - it pretty much happened by accident! However, if there is one big piece of advice I can give you in how to start getting this it would be:

Forget about orgasm and ENJOY your edging.

The fact that your body automatically associates pleasure with orgasm is a major hurdle you must overcome. You just need to do it gradually, and try your hardest to focus on controllable pleasure. If you stroke during edging and you notice a good sensation, think "that was good, I enjoyed that". Learn to want the pleasure rather than thinking "crap that felt good, i'm going to cum now". However, always be content with what you have. Soon after I discovered plateau, I began chasing it, similar to how I chased orgasm when I was younger. I cannot believe I made the same mistake twice. Of course, by chasing plateau, I was chasing good feelings, rushing to the pleasure, which of course made me orgasm quickly. You need to be relaxed, enjoy the moment, and never try and chase higher pleasure.

I appreciate this has been a long and complciated post, but I wanted to share with you the story of how I redisocovered plateau. It has been the hardest thing along my journey so far, and I don't think it could've been done without first balancing my plevic floor, but so long as you keep and positive mindset and stay open minded, it will come eventually.

I just want to add something.
I understand about the plateau fase and everything
I just want to to say that to beat premature ejaculation faster you have to get used to masturbate at hight speed motion.
That's what I did I used to masturbate slow and try just to feel good about, but when you are having sex is different. Every time you get in to intercourse there is another person and they count too.
When you have a girl riding your dick and getting wild, is not easy to have control.
I know that for experience.

[Haydos380]

I just want to add something.
I understand about the plateau fase and everything
I just want to to say that to beat premature ejaculation faster you have to get used to masturbate at hight speed motion.
That's what I did I used to masturbate slow and try just to feel good about, but when you are having sex is different. Every time you get in to intercourse there is another person and they count too.
When you have a girl riding your dick and getting wild, is not easy to have control.
I know that for experience.

mate that's really informative. Is it possible to retrain yourself in a week?

[Haydos380]

mate that's really informative. Is it possible to retrain yourself in a week?

How quickly can you beat PE with Reverse kegels and retraining masturbation?

[ammonite]

I just want to add something.
I understand about the plateau fase and everything
I just want to to say that to beat premature ejaculation faster you have to get used to masturbate at hight speed motion.
That's what I did I used to masturbate slow and try just to feel good about, but when you are having sex is different. Every time you get in to intercourse there is another person and they count too.
When you have a girl riding your dick and getting wild, is not easy to have control.
I know that for experience.

Yes, it is always good to challenge yourself, this is why I suggest, amongst other things, a fast stroke rate in the edging progression in the original thread.

How quickly can you beat PE with Reverse kegels and retraining masturbation?

There is no answer to this question. It depends what you mean by beat Pre E. Go for 5 minutes, or 5 hours?

It also varies very much from person to person, some people may be cured in a month, others may take many years. There's how long you've had Pre e for, how bad you've got it, how much you dedicate yourself to curing it. I'm afraid this is the unanswerable question, beating pre e is by no means an exact science.

[OneHandedWarrior]

Onehanded how is yor pelvic aligment?

Well I never really looked much into that or how it potentially affects me but from looking at pictures I'd say I have a posterior tilt. I sit or partially lay down alot during my free time as I spend a few too many hours playing games daily. I'm fairly tall and skinny but do work out a few times a week but I can kinda tell how some exercises make my lower back arch a bit forward which might have something to do with imbalance in my core muscles.

So how does this affect me and how do I fix it? By the way thanks for replying

[ammonite]

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...aculation.html

On a related note, what positions does everyone prefer to edge in? As I state in the OP, I think we should practice in all positions as a way of a progression, but some are definitely easier than others.

Personally, I find standing and lying the easiest, sitting is slightly more challenging and missionary is by far the hardest. Thrusting also makes things a lot more difficult, you should practice thrusting to try and keep a relaxed pelvic floor while doing the movement- this is probably an essential practice to help transfer edging progress to sex.

Anyone had any success by trying different postions/thrusting?

[Chungungo]

MMM I see it as conditioning your body, if you go too fast you´ll ejaculate fast...I don´t know I last longer now when edging...

[OneHandedWarrior]

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...aculation.html

On a related note, what positions does everyone prefer to edge in? As I state in the OP, I think we should practice in all positions as a way of a progression, but some are definitely easier than others.

Personally, I find standing and lying the easiest, sitting is slightly more challenging and missionary is by far the hardest. Thrusting also makes things a lot more difficult, you should practice thrusting to try and keep a relaxed pelvic floor while doing the movement- this is probably an essential practice to help transfer edging progress to sex.

Anyone had any success by trying different postions/thrusting?

Thanks

I prefer to edge with the fleshlight in the spooning position but I usually cycle between that and laying on my back. Some positions casue me to tense up more but it seems to get better with time. For me it's Spooning < Laying down/cowgirl < Standing/doggy style < Standing on my knees < Missionary. Sitting down seems to be easier aswell but I don't practice that much as I can't thrust in that position but when I do try it out it seems to me like that causes the least amount of Iks. When I go by hand I almost always lay down but it's mainly due to me trying to focus.

By the way had sex with my gf today and lasted for I don't know how long (didn't really care once I got into it) she was on top and we went reasonably slow. Iks weren't a problem as it seems like my tolerance has gone up quite a bit and I wore a condom which seemed to help. The first minute was a bit intense though but by taking it slow I managed to push through without too much effort. Another thing that probably helped was that I made sure to make her orgasm before we proceeded which took alot of pressure of me.

For those of you hwo don't know my current edging routine consists of using the fleshlight for 15 minutes(started at 5 to set those first 5-10 minutes in stone) then I edge by hand for another 20 by hand. Since alot of people here seem to struggle in missionary I'm thinking of doing a new edging routine but this time in missonary. I'll obviously have to start over at 1-5 minutes at first but I'm a bit hesitant. The way I see it it'll probably give me better overall control if I can manage myself in missionary and it'll make most other positions alot easier BUT it might also worsen my condition. Since missionary makes me tense up more it could potentially worsen my Iks in general as it might make my body more used to holding them again. So it's a bit of a high risk high reward type of exercise.

Opinions on this?