I think the 'poor masturbation habits' theory of premature ejaculation is incorrect

[Pegasus]

Even masturbating I have premature ejaculation. If I can't last more than 5 seconds masturbating with lube I don't see how a live woman would somehow be the difference between curing my premature ejaculation and not curing it. Also for the most part partners come rarely for me, let alone 'understanding' ones.

Read the stickys . Make a log . Start working on your pre e . Read Drummer19 log and learn from his attitude as well as his actual methodolgy.

[Big Al]

Even masturbating I have premature ejaculation. If I can't last more than 5 seconds masturbating with lube I don't see how a live woman would somehow be the difference between curing my premature ejaculation and not curing it. Also for the most part partners come rarely for me, let alone 'understanding' ones.

You seem to be taking the stance that you are somehow immune to conditioning exercises.

A "live woman" who is understanding would be willing to help you work through sexual issues. Perhaps you're using the wrong criteria in selecting potential sexual partners.

No offense, but is it possible that maybe the issue is more your mindset than exercises, uncooperative women, etc? You seem more intent on explaining away your problems than in working on solutions. Resolving your issues is something that's going to take a concerted physical and emotional effort on your end.

Take a good read throughout this forum and check out the posts of men who have gone through similar situations and resolved them. They didn't do so by making excuses or by maintaining negative mindsets.

[TwoSecondTimmy]

You seem to be taking the stance that you are somehow immune to conditioning exercises.

If that is the way it seems, you have misread.

A "live woman" who is understanding would be willing to help you work through sexual issues. Perhaps you're using the wrong criteria in selecting potential sexual partners.

My criteria is a woman, preferably with a vagina. The women I've been with that meet the criteria you are thinking of were older, uglier women. I considered practicing with one of these recently like you said, but I realised that there's not a whole lot of difference between her vagina and my lubed hand.

No offense, but is it possible that maybe the issue is more your mindset than exercises, uncooperative women, etc? You seem more intent on explaining away your problems than in working on solutions.

Once again, I might 'seem' that way but that's a mistake on your part.

Resolving your issues is something that's going to take a concerted physical and emotional effort on your end.

Take a good read throughout this forum and check out the posts of men who have gone through similar situations and resolved them. They didn't do so by making excuses or by maintaining negative mindsets.

Neither am I.

[TwoSecondTimmy]

Read the stickys . Make a log . Start working on your pre e . Read Drummer19 log and learn from his attitude as well as his actual methodolgy.

I've been doing the reverse kegel exercises daily but I can't isolate the muscle and it's much different to doing it once my penis is being stimulated. I'm doing the penis stretches and yoga, as for Drummer19's log, do you mean the Arousal Techniques thread?

[pegaso79]

Even masturbating I have premature ejaculation. If I can't last more than 5 seconds masturbating with lube I don't see how a live woman would somehow be the difference between curing my premature ejaculation and not curing it. Also for the most part partners come rarely for me, let alone 'understanding' ones.

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Why don't you masturbate 2 times. if the first time you finish fast wait, and masturbate again till you are able to last 5 minutes and gradually you going to start to last more, and more. Empty your balls.
there is away to over come this and is you who need to find the path.

[TwoSecondTimmy]

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Why don't you masturbate 2 times. if the first time you finish fast wait, and masturbate again till you are able to last 5 minutes and gradually you going to start to last more, and more. Empty your balls.
there is away to over come this and is you who need to find the path.

OK, but tell me how to last longer the second time.

[SeratoBeats]

If your pe is really bad you can blow 5 loads in a row it won't matter, you'll still last the same amount of time

You need to practice arousal control and learn how to breathe properly. It dosnt matter how physically fit you are in the pelvic floor and penis wise, you need to control the nervous system and your sexual feelings. This comes with patience practice and experience, not whining or blaming porn on everything.

If you somehow created pe and it became a problem like mine where you were once able to last forever then you can sure as hell reverse it. Being negative isnt going to fix it. Learn how your body works and how it reacts under stimulation and find ways or tricks that work for you to keep your arousal to a minimum. Again, patience practice and experience.

[TwoSecondTimmy]

If your pe is really bad you can blow 5 loads in a row it won't matter, you'll still last the same amount of time

Exactly, I'm glad someone understands this. It's not like weightlifting where you lift a larger amount every time.

You need to practice arousal control and learn how to breathe properly.

I feel the euphoria when the PONR comes and I can feel it in my lungs. As I have read here, I have been controlling my breathing and not holding my breath when I am doing these exercises.

It dosnt matter how physically fit you are in the pelvic floor and penis wise, you need to control the nervous system and your sexual feelings. This comes with patience practice and experience, not whining or blaming porn on everything.

I don't know who you're talking to with this comment. I never mentioned porn and never whined.

If you somehow created pe and it became a problem like mine where you were once able to last forever then you can sure as hell reverse it.

I never lasted forever. I came quick the first time I stimulated the glans.

Being negative isnt going to fix it. Learn how your body works and how it reacts under stimulation and find ways or tricks that work for you to keep your arousal to a minimum. Again, patience practice and experience.

I guess it's lucky I'm not being negative then.

[pegaso79]

OK, but tell me how to last longer the second time.

you need to do edging man, go slow very slow and when you feel the contraction stop, and take a deep breath, relax and do it again. If you feel that is too much try to fine one spot in the head of your penis, and rub it something like a ballooning.
feel the response of your body. Remember go slow, and stop and do
a reverse kegels.
if you finish wait 5 minutes or what ever time you need to another erection, and do it again till you can ballooning for at least 10 minutes.
And don't be too delicate with your dick make stretches, jelk, get an erection and squeeze your dick front the bottom to the head.
Practice man practice Rome wasn't built in one day!

[TwoSecondTimmy]

you need to do edging man, go slow very slow and when you feel the contraction stop, and take a deep breath, relax and do it again. If you feel that is too much try to fine one spot in the head of your penis, and rub it something like a ballooning.
feel the response of your body. Remember go slow, and stop and do
a reverse kegels.
if you finish wait 5 minutes or what ever time you need to another erection, and do it again till you can ballooning for at least 10 minutes.
And don't be too delicate with your dick make stretches, jelk, get an erection and squeeze your dick front the bottom to the head.

I've been doing this for 10-14 years. It doesn't actually do anything, each time I last the exact same amount of time.

Practice man practice Rome wasn't built in one day!

Rome was built more each day though.