How I cured myself in 4 weeks - no, honestly.

**Johndonson** · 06-03-2014

He's saying the brain controls the muscles and if the brain wants the dopamine rush it'll do whatever it takes ex, involuntary kegels, insane sex thoughts, and everything else contributing to pre ejac. If he says holding off ejaculating to every 14 days then do it. Hell pretty sure having pre ejac and is making some of us not want to have sex anyways so what if it's going to "hurt" your libido. I totally agree with everything 1000 said

**pebuddy** · 06-03-2014

Gonna give this a go fellas. Will report back...

**MrB8** · 06-03-2014

Originally Posted by Johndonson

He's saying the brain controls the muscles and if the brain wants the dopamine rush it'll do whatever it takes ex, involuntary kegels, insane sex thoughts, and everything else contributing to pre ejac. If he says holding off ejaculating to every 14 days then do it. Hell pretty sure having pre ejac and is making some of us not want to have sex anyways so what if it's going to "hurt" your libido. I totally agree with everything 1000 said

It may lead to ED, since your body will get too used to all the hormones rush during edging, and with time, you will not be able to replicate that as you broke the natural cycle of hormones and chemicals that your body produces in the whole process.

Instead of messing up your body, why don't you learn how to control it, ejaculation will not hinder your progress, but will make sure you are able to make some.

Guys, sex aint mechanics, you are not a motorized machine and not expected to be one, you are loosing out on so much by all this stress, this desperation, and this mentality.

**CrazyS** · 06-03-2014

Originally Posted by happy_Santa

The plateau phase I read the other day, its a fantastic discovery for me I am experimenting with this and plan on doing a write up as well.

CrazyS you need to start to masturbate, put your finger underneath your balls where the penis goes into the body (you will feel the shaft) as you are stroking or touching the different parts of your penis, with your finger see if you can feel any "jerks" or "spasms" coming off the shaft, if you do you are involuntarily kegling.

Happy Santa --- So If I am involuntarily kegeling what do I do to fix it??..because I get a pain in the dorsal vein right at the base of my penis by my balls when i kegel..I think all the cronic masturbation and constant erections wore out and hurt my dorsal vein...I have tried not to get a erection for almost a month to let it heal.

**1000** · 06-03-2014

Originally Posted by MrB8

It may lead to ED, since your body will get too used to all the hormones rush during edging, and with time, you will not be able to replicate that as you broke the natural cycle of hormones and chemicals that your body produces in the whole process.

Instead of messing up your body, why don't you learn how to control it, ejaculation will not hinder your progress, but will make sure you are able to make some.

Guys, sex aint mechanics, you are not a motorized machine and not expected to be one, you are loosing out on so much by all this stress, this desperation, and this mentality.

I do agree with you here mate - doing my scheme for a year or two will probably mess you up in other ways

But I took the view I need to take exteme short term action to "shock" my nervous system. I don't plan on doing this forever, just until I feel I'm back to how my ejaculation response should be

Thus far in my year struggle this is only thing that works. I honestly believe my/our brains are addicted to the dopamine fix of ejaculation that it will do everything to get it - ie spasm , kegel, bad pelvic contractions.

**happy_Santa** · 06-05-2014

Originally Posted by CrazyS

Happy Santa --- So If I am involuntarily kegeling what do I do to fix it??..because I get a pain in the dorsal vein right at the base of my penis by my balls when i kegel..I think all the cronic masturbation and constant erections wore out and hurt my dorsal vein...I have tried not to get a erection for almost a month to let it heal.

Try grabbing the end of your penis (in particular the glands) like a pinching arrangement and stretch your penis upwards towards you body, you will feel your penis wan't to jerk back, try doing it again until it doesnt jerk back, now hold your penis in this position and squeeze the head/glands for around 30 seconds, not too hard, try again until it stops jerking away, this can stop the involuntary kegeling.

**JamesMonroe** · 06-05-2014

Originally Posted by happy_Santa

The most important thing you forgot to mention, how did you go during actual sex? Because in my experience learning to masturbate and not PE came easy and I thought I had cured it until I had sex and bang hit PE immediately, it's why I have come to the realization that you need a fleshlight, what you have wrote is almost exactly what I have experienced and gained, ESPECIALLY the part about the mental factor versus physical, physical is only a tiny proportion and is actually easy to overcome, I have proven this with myself time and time again, I am going to do a write up in the near future

I too would like to know how long he lasts with a woman. I was able to edge up to an hour at one point but as all as I was able to get laid again, I finished in 2-4 minutes. It wasn't till I had daily, constant progressive sex with a caring, patient and supportive long term GF that I got over pre ejac.
The dry death grip and the bdinfing and ballooning of my most sensitive spot(top of my penis head) were also some of the biggest turning points. But of course the 7-10 other things I did also helped.
There is no single cure. It's a combination of many things.

**CrazyS** · 06-05-2014

Originally Posted by happy_Santa

Try grabbing the end of your penis (in particular the glands) like a pinching arrangement and stretch your penis upwards towards you body, you will feel your penis wan't to jerk back, try doing it again until it doesnt jerk back, now hold your penis in this position and squeeze the head/glands for around 30 seconds, not too hard, try again until it stops jerking away, this can stop the involuntary kegeling.

happy santa -- I tryed what u said, and my penis never tryed to jerk back when I brought it up to my body..I still dont know whats wrong with me, and the urologist never ran any tests to see what was wrong

**happy_Santa** · 06-05-2014

Originally Posted by CrazyS

happy santa -- I tryed what u said, and my penis never tryed to jerk back when I brought it up to my body..I still dont know whats wrong with me, and the urologist never ran any tests to see what was wrong

Are you involuntarily kegling or not? You need to establish this first. Chances are your PE is purely a mental condition.

**happy_Santa** · 06-05-2014

To give you an example I was using a fleshlight thrusting away for ages in different positions and I could have gone for ages, I have some mp3's of girls moaning during sex so nothing visual only sounds, as soon as I put this on I blew within 10 seconds, this is a purely mental stimulation problem, I have mastered the feeling and sensation problems I have had, I am now going to listen to these moaning sounds as much as I can day to day doing normal things, that way my brain hopefully will associate the moans as just a normal thing and not sexual stimulation.