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  • I'm not sure what just happened, very strange, any advice?

    So, it's been another good day for PE:

    10 hours extending in the Penimaster Pro,
    3x 5 mins Bathmate,
    20 mins jelqing,

    then:

    I started to do 10 mins of edging, after just 1 min I could feel I was approaching the point of no return, then I knew I was right next to it so I had to just let go of my penis completely. I tried to do a reverse kegal but I could feel as I tried it was failing and almost subconsciously I was going to do a regular kegal. Anway, after at least a minute of just simply sitting there hoping for the sensitivity to go away, I done an involuntary kegal, and blew my beans all over my chair

    Now my initial suspicion is this: I'm doing kegals when I start jelqing because I find it gets me to the desired level of erection quickly, then I've been doing kegals during the 20 mins of jelqing to maintain this. So is it possible I'm subconsciously training myself to kegal involuntary?

    I've returned to jelqing and edging just over a week ago, during recent previous months I was concentrating on extending and then added a bathmate in to my routine to supplement it. I've also quit masturbation and porn several months ago as part of my PE comitment. (if any of this info is useful).

    I've only started jelqing and edging again because I've started seeing a girl and want that "wow" factor I have when I was jelqing and edging regularly (before I began my extending dedication several months ago cos I wanted to concentrate on length).

    Any suggestions? I'm thinking maybe leave out the jelqing if it's giving me bad habits, and maybe spend more time edging instead, or even leave ouy the edging too. I did also buy the bathmate to replace jelqing, so I'm possibly being greedy anyway with jelqing aswell.
    Rybina
    Senior Member
    Last edited by Rybina; 10-06-2014, 05:00 PM.
    Start: March 3, 2014 : BPEL=182mm, EG=146mm.
    Current: October 4, 2014 : BPEL=204mm, EG=150mm.

  • #2
    PS,

    I need to get in bed now cos it's late, but I'll check-in first thing when I get up,

    thanks in advance all.
    Start: March 3, 2014 : BPEL=182mm, EG=146mm.
    Current: October 4, 2014 : BPEL=204mm, EG=150mm.

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    • #3
      Do reverse kegels after the regular kegels to balance them out, also deep squats help a lot.

      https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...-thats-me.html

      https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ep-squats.html
      A real man never hurts a woman. The woman came out of a man’s rib, not from his feet to be walked on, and not from his head to be superior, but from his side to be equal. Under the arm to be protected, and next to the heart to be loved. - Mrs. workin_4_it

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      • #4
        I'd say it's more the kegels than anything else. I don't do pe so with regard to that i couldn't contribute anything with any viability. But from doing my pf routine, always on a day where i do kegels and edge theres a notible difference in how early the ik's kick in and there strength. But i've weighted it to almost what i think is optimal. I jelq every now and then to increase blood flow but never had any trouble. Did you suffer from pre e before or was it not an issue?
        A Game of Bones. A Stretch With Rice And Fire.

        Start1/04/15:BPEL:7.1 MEG:5.2 -1/07/15:BPEL:7.2 MEG:5.4

        Edging For Premature Ejaculation./
        Pelvic Floor Balance./
        Minute Man'snKegel Master List./ Reverse Kegels./
        JP90 Routine./ Conditioning Your Wang.

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        • #5
          Thanks guys,

          I've never had any real problems with Pre-E before. The only times I can think of were when me and the ex-dragon had gone for a long time without any intercourse through sick children or family stresses, then the first time afterwards I would be ready to cum very quickly, but after that it was always fine.

          I have stopped doing deep squats (weighted) because they weren't agreeing with my knees (that's interesting). Would it worth introducing higher rep body weight deep squats into my PE routine, and not part of my weight lifting routine?

          This got me thinking last night (and even kept me awake for a while), I think I'll abandon jelqing for the time being, but I'll begin longer edging session with no kegals of any sort, just "general masturbation" in bed with no visual stimulus, just the physical contact to "untrain" my penis. I may even allow myself to ejaculate 2 or 3 times a week, just incase it's "not ejaculating" that's making the point of return too easy to get, then go from there.

          I'm just starting a new relationship, and I'd love to carry on without masturbation and ejaculation (I will continue without porn though), but I think I'll be best sticking to what I know works and allows me to perform in bed until the "honeymoon period" is over at least.

          Thanks again guys, I'll keep this updated too.
          Start: March 3, 2014 : BPEL=182mm, EG=146mm.
          Current: October 4, 2014 : BPEL=204mm, EG=150mm.

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          • #6
            This is really interesting:

            Thanks for sharing, I'll have a look at either reintroducing weighted low squats into my regular workouts, or doing an early morning limbering workout that uses bodyweight low squats.
            Start: March 3, 2014 : BPEL=182mm, EG=146mm.
            Current: October 4, 2014 : BPEL=204mm, EG=150mm.

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            • #7
              I also found this:

              https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ess-story.html

              A success story suggesting bodyweight low squats was the solution for somebody else.

              I train 3 times a week, (heavy), but I read in a book years ago "The Science of Sport Training by Tom Kurz" about finishing the main part of a workout, leading into the cool down should be two sets of 30 reps of an exercise that supplements the main goal of the workout.

              2 set of 30 reps of body weight squats would be ideal for me after my heavy lifting and before my easy jogging cool down, so I'll do that in the future and report back.
              Start: March 3, 2014 : BPEL=182mm, EG=146mm.
              Current: October 4, 2014 : BPEL=204mm, EG=150mm.

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              • #8
                The deep squats are good, if weighted is stressing the knees, could also be stressing other areas ( the pf). I do low weight high rep squats in my leg/ lower back workout, and unweighted squats in my pf routine. If it's physical, like me, then fixing it or getting back to normal should be handy enough. Update us.
                A Game of Bones. A Stretch With Rice And Fire.

                Start1/04/15:BPEL:7.1 MEG:5.2 -1/07/15:BPEL:7.2 MEG:5.4

                Edging For Premature Ejaculation./
                Pelvic Floor Balance./
                Minute Man'snKegel Master List./ Reverse Kegels./
                JP90 Routine./ Conditioning Your Wang.

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                • #9
                  Update,

                  guys all is ok again. I've stopped jelqing, I've masturbated twice this week now including ejaculating (eyes closed, in bed, no visual stimulus with no kegals or reverse kegals at all), and was fine. I was able to masturbate for over 20 mins each time before wanting to ejaculate, so I think I'm good again.

                  The changes I have made since this happened:

                  Quit jelqing,
                  started training "ass to the grass" bodyweight squats",
                  quit kegals and reverse kegals,
                  masturbated (including ejaculation) twice (will do this three times a week now).

                  One or more of these things has solved it for me.

                  Start: March 3, 2014 : BPEL=182mm, EG=146mm.
                  Current: October 4, 2014 : BPEL=204mm, EG=150mm.

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                  • #10
                    Good to hear, does it mean you've quit jelqing for good or are just taking some rest time?
                    A Game of Bones. A Stretch With Rice And Fire.

                    Start1/04/15:BPEL:7.1 MEG:5.2 -1/07/15:BPEL:7.2 MEG:5.4

                    Edging For Premature Ejaculation./
                    Pelvic Floor Balance./
                    Minute Man'snKegel Master List./ Reverse Kegels./
                    JP90 Routine./ Conditioning Your Wang.

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