Jericho's Log

[_Jericho_]

edged 3 times today for over 30 minutes in front of porn without lube. didn't ejaculate. i feel great but i have 1 minor question - sometimes i feel the need to urinate after edging session. in the past i thought it was because i retro ejaculated. but today i felt that way and i wasn't near PONR.. so i couldn't retro...
any explanation?

[longerlastingnoob]

Sounds Normal, if your edging for long periods then the need to pee isn't there or is blocked (with me anyway) so when you finish you'll really need to go.

[Minuteman]

so i finally understand the problem MM and LLN had with me at the beginning (and even slightly now ). im not sure if the point of this log is to update on my physical progress or on my mental Pre E progress and understanding as well. so hopefully this minor update will be ok .

at first i refused to understand that controlling and "defeating" Pre E (which at this point im not even sure i even have, but i enjoy the progress of learning my body and surely it will help me in the future whether i have or doesnt have pre E). i though that in order to "fix" my problem i simply need to fix a minor tension in my pf. heck, if not for MM and LLN i wouldn't even knew i had tension problem and i would've kegeled non stop and made my problem even worse.

as i learned, you need to understand your condition (in this case Pre E) from the very bottom. even if your problem is further up the road. you still need to explore, learn and understand the basics of Pre E. i was eager to start RK and to be honest i was always pushing MM to "allow" me to involve RK in my routine. luckily, i wasnt stupid enough and although i didn't agree with MM at first (thinking i was such an expert and all), i followed his instructions as best as i understood (after all, English isn't my first or seconds language).

now im able to say that understand the road MM and LLN told me to follow. i've yet to learn WHEN i should progress to more advance technique (the RK i was so eager to start and didn't understood why others started RK in their routine and i didn't) but im surely enjoying the progress and learning to understand my body. i think the most important thing i've learned was NOT TO BE EAGER TO ADVANCE TO SOMETHING YOUR NOT YET READY FOR. i kinda had reasons to advance quickly as i could (joining the army in less than a month). but now im able to understand that being quick about advance doesn't necessarily means better results.

further more, additional problem i had was the fact i took edging as a job or a task rather than an enjoyment. i began edging with the thought "OK I HAVE TO LAST AT LEAST 45 MINUTES". guess what, i reached PONR in 5 minutes. yes, thanks to practice and patience i was able to make my PONR fade. but that wasnt the goal. only when i told myself "ok, lets edge for fun" - i actually reached 20+ minutes without reaching PONR. and more important - Only when i was fully relaxed i was able to achieve the "almost at the PONR" feeling for 10+ minutes and the arousal was high yet i didn't reached PONR. i also noticed that when i relax my pelvic floor near PONR, the PONR actually fade away.

i still have till the end of the month to make more progress. hopefully i wont lose all i've gained in the boot camp. i've yet to understand when will time come to include RK in my routine.
oh, and sorry MM and LLN for being such a pain in the ass

I am really glad that you have understood with time, rather then just outright be told. That marks an important milestone.

As you have noticed "almost at the PONR" is a very pleasuring and highly arousing experience, so with that in mind I would like if you would do the 3day routine one more time with focus on high arousal and pleasure.

After the 3day rotuine feel free to add reverse kegels in your routine. You can follow the level 0 from here, or if you want to fully focus on reverse kegels it would be a good idea to ask LLN for an idea since he is focusing on rk only as well (in fact this might be a better option for you, it is easy to add kegels and others if you see that it isn't working out for you). Whatever you chose https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...se-kegels.html is also a thing you should include in your routine (doing them before bed for example etc).

However, if you yourself feel that you can learn and benefit more by just continuing to do what you are doing feel free to do it and then advance when you think you should. You have understood the main point of edging in a sense and from my perspective developed a good mindset so your next steps are really only up to you.

[_Jericho_]

thank you MM, i've talked to LLN and decided to do the following -

today im gonna take a rest day.
tomorrow (actually in 1am today) i will start the 3day routine.

after the 3day routine my routine will be:
- Rk: 30-50 3 times a day 4 times a week (about 3-5 secs hold).
- Deep squats: 10-20, Before and after rk's.
- Stretches: basic stretches of the groin/pf and some yoga ones listed on forum combined with JP90 routine stretches (N,NE,E,SE,S,SW,W,NW).
- Keep edging. and focus on any changes or signs my body gives me during this change.
- I will also do the JP90 routine when i have the time (not focusing on that, rather have a controllable penis than a big one )

[_Jericho_]

hey PEGym. i keep working on my pelvic floor with squats and RK. but i have a diffrent question regarding arousal.
i know Pre E can be caused from high arousal.

i wanted to know if this experience can have any indication on my arousal control -
i hooked up with this girl few days ago.
i noticed i had 60% erection during most of the time we kissed. but after she got naked and i went down on her i kinda lost erection. at least i think so. i counted 1 IK during the entire time we were in bed (about 1-2 hours). its not that i wasnt aroused. i was. but i was kinda distracted so i dont think i had erection. we got interrupted before i took my pants down. thing is i didnt get raging boner as i though i would get in this situation. (i do get them in the morning and when edging (with or without porn), so its not ED, i hope\think).

any thoughts on the experience from the Pre E point of view?

[longerlastingnoob]

I think it's 2 things.
Your work on pelvic floor, and with it more confidence.
And you were focusing on her.
I don't want to be premature ( pun not intended) but you may be further along than you think