Stop kegeling and start squatting. Article and discussion.

[finlandia]

Interesting! I played hockey at semi-pro level for 10+ years and leg workouts have always been a huge part of my training. Dry Speed Skating drill where you tilt your back roughly 45 degrees forward or more if you can and do lateral skating motion hops has always been my go to training. I would easily do 25/30 min of dry skating a day. Anyways I am 36 and haven't played competitive hockey in 4 years and my leg workouts based around squats have been nearly non-existent since I stopped playing. In the last 5 months I started training my legs again as I have an itch to play non-competitive local hockey. I am training not at the same level I used to obviously but I have noticed my random erections are a lot more frequent. My EQ only started getting inconsistent last year, why I found PEGYM. My wife also started telling me last year that my butt is not the same it used to be. Certainly very interesting!

[2muchtension]

Interesting! I played hockey at semi-pro level for 10+ years and leg workouts have always been a huge part of my training. Dry Speed Skating drill where you tilt your back roughly 45 degrees forward or more if you can and do lateral skating motion hops has always been my go to training. I would easily do 25/30 min of dry skating a day. Anyways I am 36 and haven't played competitive hockey in 4 years and my leg workouts based around squats have been nearly non-existent since I stopped playing. In the last 5 months I started training my legs again as I have an itch to play non-competitive local hockey. I am training not at the same level I used to obviously but I have noticed my random erections are a lot more frequent. My EQ only started getting inconsistent last year, why I found PEGYM. My wife also started telling me last year that my butt is not the same it used to be. Certainly very interesting!

I'm also a hockey player and the posture I use when skating is leaning very far forward, with my butt sticking out a bit. Definitely helps with speed but it's quite an unusual posture, and may have contributed to my anterior pelvic tilt, which in turn, I think, is related to PE.

[Pegasus]

So ma what are your thoughts on squat style . It strikes me that different variants will have varied effects.
I have done over the years many variations .
Recently doing weighted front squats (as a change from back squats ), overhead squats . Unweighted hindi squats , boku balance squats , tiptoe squats and partial one leg squats . Not currently doing deadlifts but bar hyper extensions.
My back is a mess btw and I get work on it regular, however my pelvic floor is fine .

[Big Al]

So ma what are your thoughts on squat style . It strikes me that different variants will have varied effects.
I have done over the years many variations .
Recently doing weighted front squats (as a change from back squats ), overhead squats . Unweighted hindi squats , boku balance squats , tiptoe squats and partial one leg squats . Not currently doing deadlifts but bar hyper extensions.
My back is a mess btw and I get work on it regular, however my pelvic floor is fine .

As you get older it becomes easier to lose flexibility if your lifestyle isn't active, and a focus on just one type of training for a long period of time can cause imbalances and weaknesses in neglected aspects of your physique. If I could do it over again I'd focus on flexibility and endurance from the get-go as well and on not neglecting any important stabilizer muscles.

[Pegasus]

Pilates is very interesting from the view of stabilisers AL.

[Spoonman84]

So ma what are your thoughts on squat style . It strikes me that different variants will have varied effects.
I have done over the years many variations .
Recently doing weighted front squats (as a change from back squats ), overhead squats . Unweighted hindi squats , boku balance squats , tiptoe squats and partial one leg squats . Not currently doing deadlifts but bar hyper extensions.
My back is a mess btw and I get work on it regular, however my pelvic floor is fine .

Yout sound like you know your stuff. And you mentioned body Hindu squats. The only people I know who know what those are tend to be wrestlers.

I feel for in terms of both pelvic floor Issues, and glute back issues I prefer wide stance ,Ass to grass with emphasis on hip break. Pretty much everything you stated before. I have large quads and no Ass and hamstrings from being quad dominat my whole life so I avoid front squats personally.

Pegasus you said your back is a mess. Is it lower back pain and do you happen to have tight hamstrings? And do you happen to have an office job that makes you sit a lot?

I suffered from a bad anterior pelvic tilt . Alot of people have milld cases from Living sedentary lives and sitting all day. This shorten my hip flexors, pullling my pelvis out of neutral and caused my hamstrings and even the pelvic floor to constantly stay engaged. Stretching didn't stop the pulling. Besides strengthing the posterior chain counter act the counter pull , stretching my hip flexors has been the biggest help in relief in back and my constant tension in pelvic floor. The tight hip flexors where what was causing the pull to start with on my pelvis. Al and you mentioned flexibility and stabilizers. Look up hip flexors and back pain and see if That helps you.

[Big Al]

Pilates is very interesting from the view of stabilisers AL.

That would be something to look into- thanks!

[Pegasus]

Yout sound like you know your stuff. And you mentioned body Hindu squats. The only people I know who know what those are tend to be wrestlers.

I feel for in terms of both pelvic floor Issues, and glute back issues I prefer wide stance ,Ass to grass with emphasis on hip break. Pretty much everything you stated before. I have large quads and no Ass and hamstrings from being quad dominat my whole life so I avoid front squats personally.

Pegasus you said your back is a mess. Is it lower back pain and do you happen to have tight hamstrings? And do you happen to have an office job that makes you sit a lot?

I suffered from a bad anterior pelvic tilt . Alot of people have milld cases from Living sedentary lives and sitting all day. This shorten my hip flexors, pullling my pelvis out of neutral and caused my hamstrings and even the pelvic floor to constantly stay engaged. Stretching didn't stop the pulling. Besides strengthing the posterior chain counter act the counter pull , stretching my hip flexors has been the biggest help in relief in back and my constant tension in pelvic floor. The tight hip flexors where what was causing the pull to start with on my pelvis. Al and you mentioned flexibility and stabilizers. Look up hip flexors and back pain and see if That helps you.

Back in the day I did Judo , the yoga people do hindi squats.

Of course they are popular onsite now and tend to be done wide stance and held in the bottom position. In effect the style done onsite are a stretch rather than a muscle building variant . I have come to think it does not address all the boxes.

I have had pain most everywhere in the back at one time or another . I believe this is due to a motor vehicle accident I had when young. My ass, hamstrings and quads are in balance so far as I can tell. My pelvis does twist but I would not say anterior tilt, I do not have pelvic floor tension at this point, hard to know what may have been the case when I had DE . Remember I had DE not pre e .

Ok so hip flexor tightness is common and stretching them has no downside I know of .
This would indicate lunges high rep unweighted . Overhead squat (weighted) has a strong kegel effect , weighted back squats(deep) have a stretch (rk) effect a muscle building effect and a kegel effect, however the rk effect is under load and has a different quality so I suggest guys doing them include unweighted hindi squats as a warmdown . Balance squats have an effect on the pelvic floor different from other squats and are a good warm up.

Ok so you talk of too much tension coming from the hip flexor which needs to be stretched and weak posterior chain which needs to be strengthened to balance the anterior tension.

[Hogama]

Now I wanted to give you guys an update... It's hard to say for certain weather this big step came from the squat or the my device or I was already conditioned enough.

Now two days ago I increased the weight on my device to level 3 (4 levels in total). (it's a weighted anal device aimed at working your pelvic floor.

I started squatting again for about 2 weeks or so.

So This morning I was sort of edging when I lost control and had an orgasm. Everything was so quick that I just decided to clench my pc muscles hard. Real hard. I had my first dry orgasm. I stopped stimulation and came except I held it...just a tiny little bit dropped out...nothing like normal ejaculation...I checked my pee and there was no sperm or "clouds" in them.

This could be caused by various reasons. I never tried having dry orgasms except a couple of times a while back when my pc was weaker. I had already ejaculated two days before so my volume could've been smaller, hence easier to retain. My pc muslces were already sore from the workout before.

Now I believe that squatting is really helping with my pelvic floor. The kegels work my pelvic floor harder!!! I'm getting sore differently...like even at the sides I can feel my whole pelvic floor being sore just like after a workout where my muscles are damaged to make em grow.

[Dick-Machine]

Hi Hogama can you tell us more about this weighted anal device that you use to work your pelvic floor? That sounds really interesting.

Now I wanted to give you guys an update... It's hard to say for certain weather this big step came from the squat or the my device or I was already conditioned enough.

Now two days ago I increased the weight on my device to level 3 (4 levels in total). (it's a weighted anal device aimed at working your pelvic floor.

I started squatting again for about 2 weeks or so.

So This morning I was sort of edging when I lost control and had an orgasm. Everything was so quick that I just decided to clench my pc muscles hard. Real hard. I had my first dry orgasm. I stopped stimulation and came except I held it...just a tiny little bit dropped out...nothing like normal ejaculation...I checked my pee and there was no sperm or "clouds" in them.

This could be caused by various reasons. I never tried having dry orgasms except a couple of times a while back when my pc was weaker. I had already ejaculated two days before so my volume could've been smaller, hence easier to retain. My pc muslces were already sore from the workout before.

Now I believe that squatting is really helping with my pelvic floor. The kegels work my pelvic floor harder!!! I'm getting sore differently...like even at the sides I can feel my whole pelvic floor being sore just like after a workout where my muscles are damaged to make em grow.