is this a dry orgasm or what?

[s_t_f Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close s_t_f]

I've always wondered what this was. So ill do my best to explain.

When I was 25(now34) I started dating a 18yo that was smoking hot. I had a form of preE that was from about a year and half of straight jackin it to porn multiple times a aday. Well when we started having sex I had to start and stop a lot. I already knew exactly when my ponr was and would adjust positions go down on her or try to distract my self. I would also bust one real quick then fool around and go for round two using a desensitized condom. After a few years of sex with her I started we no longer used condoms and I started to adapt this technique that just before I hit ponr I would tell her to lay still because I was right at the point of cumming and not to move. I would then start involuntary kegal like I was having an orgasm but nothing would come out. We would then start to have sex again and in no time I was back to the ponr and go through that whole process again. After about 3 or 4 times of that I was then able to just pound away for hours with now having delayed ejaculation. Actually struggling to cum.

With my next girlfriend I was able to d ok the same thing but only after we had been having sex a while and we used to each other. When I would do this with her she always thought I was cumming and loved that pulsing feeling in her. This girl didn't like the hour long sessions so after the 2nd time I would just bust. She was sort of a premature cumer and would always get off in less than 10 minutes without foreplay.

So are these pulses actually dry orgasm or just glorified involuntary kegals? If I were to thrust while doing this I would ejaculate. Both parties had to be very still in order to not produce cum. And I wouldn't squeeze a kegal to hold anything back.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

You don't mention actually having an orgasm.

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

I'm kinda in the middle on this. I get this sometimes, like half the physical side of a mild orgasm, but without the endophin (or whatever) rush. But, unlike OP, if I wait a moment, that is a green light for me to turn it up, my PoNR is far away again, similar to having actually cum, but I haven't, so I stay hard. Sometimes also, when that happens, my PoNR pulls too far away and I can't finish.

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Sounds like you are quelling the orgasm as well as the ejaculation.

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

I get the pulsing feeling, not ik's but like rk pulse. Mot of the time on days when I've done rk exercises. Do you feel it at other times, when asleep?

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Timing is everything. When it's PONR time, I (subconsciously now) can detect that IK sensation just before it kicks in, do a RK briefly to hold it off, and never stop thrusting. If I pull a hard K/RK I tend to lose my erection somewhat more than I desire, so this took some real fine-tuning for me (ha-ha)! I can remain in plateau this way, DO repeatedly and have orgasm after orgasm, (ALL DRY) until I decide to blow my load. It's a great feeling of control and confidence for me. GF loves it too!

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

Sounds like you are quelling the orgasm as well as the ejaculation.

Hmm. It's not all bad, but this isn't my thread so I won't go into it in depth. I'm only sharing my experience for the OP in case anything rings a bell, is interesting or helpful.

The pulses, when I get this, are all on my cock only, and not deeper. So, kinda like involuntaries, but not kegels. It's more like my body's cleaning up and shaking it out of the way so I can carry on, like your experience OP, so unlike involuntary kegels, which for me, escalated my arousal and made it harder to not cum. It's the opposite. And, as I say, not really "kegels" as such.

shall we call them "good involuntaries"?

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

Timing is everything. When it's PONR time, I (subconsciously now) can detect that IK sensation just before it kicks in, do a RK briefly to hold it off, and never stop thrusting. If I pull a hard K/RK I tend to lose my erection somewhat more than I desire, so this took some real fine-tuning for me (ha-ha)! I can remain in plateau this way, DO repeatedly and have orgasm after orgasm, (ALL DRY) until I decide to blow my load. It's a great feeling of control and confidence for me. GF loves it too!

That sounds awesome, that's the control I want, maybe we all want? I'm not quite there though, I tend to find these mini maybe-IK-maybe-mini-orgasm things pull my PoNR further away, and a good few times now I've been unable to finish. As you're the millionth person to say on here, it's all about timing huh. Thre could be worse things to have to practice

[longerlastingnoob Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close longerlastingnoob]

Spanky, I get those aswel. Like a wave, it sort of slowly builds. I haven't been able to do with kegels, just stop ejaculation. I think it's because I've done rk heavy exercises for so long.

[spanky Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close spanky]

...I think it's because I've done rk heavy exercises for so long.

I can believe that. After I turned the corner with my prem. E, regular kegels and edging/peaking and so on, I don't even have to think about control any more to be good enough, possibly better than most as women I've been with tend to call me back. I'm not as far ahead as I'd like, maybe it's Utopian to dream of total "hang on as long as I want, cum when I want" control regardless of how intense, but it's still what I want.

Incidentally, something that may be a tangent, but may be interesting and relevant too, I've thought for years that male and female orgasm is the same process and same experience if you can find the path, just our equipment is a little bit different. Exploring this has been ... um ... an education. Possibly in the same way that some (most?) women have to learn to orgasm, we have to learn to orgasm like that too, just that the easy quick one we can get with our cocks and prostate gets in the way and distracts us. Thoughts really 'cause I've met a lot of women who only cum when they want to.

And maybe if the G-spot really is the female prostate, that would explain the quicker, different boom orgasm they get? 'Cause maybe that's like a typical male orgasm? Pure speculation of course, just thinking aloud.

[s_t_f Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close s_t_f]

You don't mention actually having an orgasm.

Eventually I will have an orgasm when and if I can hold it long enough. If I were to keep thrusting or stimulation I would have a full out orgasm.

[s_t_f Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close s_t_f]

I'm kinda in the middle on this. I get this sometimes, like half the physical side of a mild orgasm, but without the endophin (or whatever) rush. But, unlike OP, if I wait a moment, that is a green light for me to turn it up, my PoNR is far away again, similar to having actually cum, but I haven't, so I stay hard. Sometimes also, when that happens, my PoNR pulls too far away and I can't finish.

This is exactly what I'm talking about. It just takes 2 or 3 or 4 times to for me get the green light but sometime my PoNR to pull so far away as well I can't finish.

[s_t_f Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close s_t_f]

Sounds like you are quelling the orgasm as well as the ejaculation.

Yes pretty much. And in the process I have some pretty intense spasms, that don't feel half bad.

[s_t_f Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close s_t_f]

I get the pulsing feeling, not ik's but like rk pulse. Mot of the time on days when I've done rk exercises. Do you feel it at other times, when asleep?

they feel more like a intense version of an involuntary kegal, which I get all the time. I don't have anything that are these powerful unless I'm involved in stimulation, sex/masturbation.

[s_t_f Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close s_t_f]

Timing is everything. When it's PONR time, I (subconsciously now) can detect that IK sensation just before it kicks in, do a RK briefly to hold it off, and never stop thrusting. If I pull a hard K/RK I tend to lose my erection somewhat more than I desire, so this took some real fine-tuning for me (ha-ha)! I can remain in plateau this way, DO repeatedly and have orgasm after orgasm, (ALL DRY) until I decide to blow my load. It's a great feeling of control and confidence for me. GF loves it too!

That has to be absolutely amazing.