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  • I don't believe tight pelvic floor causes PE.

    Personally, I know I have a tight pelvic floor. I also know a lot of my problems are a result of abusing masturbation and porn. However, whenever I edge with a clear mind or whenever I'm getting a handjob, I get IKs like usual but they are ineffective to bringing me to PONR unexpectedly. I quite easily can feel the throbs and tugs from the IK but they don't bring me closer to orgasm.

    HOWEVER, the second I lose focus and start imagining sex, I start to lose control. If I'm quick enough I can route my brain back to neutral thoughts and staying focused but if I "daydream" too long PONR is inevitable.

    Notice how above I said the IKs I get from a handjob don't affect me? I believe this is because handjobs in porn never turned me on or interested me; so the sensation of a handjob doesn't relate to porn easily. So my conclusion is that in reality all of my problems connect back to porn and its mental problems. Not physical. The fact that I have a tight pelvic floor but can last with certain types of stimulation proves that the problem isn't the direct stimulation itself but instead it's variables of what is causing the stimulation.

    Sex, in all positions and oral sex were all apart of my porn watching experience and I tried to relate the virtual sensations to real life. I didn't realize years ago the affect it would have on me I simply enjoyed the temporary pleasure.

    The fact that I focused so heavily on imagining what "porn felt like in real life" growing up is the cause for my sensitivity and over arousal. The obsession that I created in my own head pushes my arousal over the edge (no pun intended).

    So to conclude, yes tight pelvic floor is a symptom of bad habits, but I truly believe too much emphasis is put on RKs or other routines. Physical routines are effective I'm not doubting that, but I feel like there's too much emphasis on it and people aren't nailing their personal history and sex life to a personal remedy. I believe it's all in the head and based on how you view certain sexual acts in your head and what you exposed yourself to. How to combat it? Well I'm still trying to figure that out myself.

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    It's great that you are figuring out what is behind your premature ejaculation. We are all different, and need to focus on what our unique issues are, just like you said. While you need to focus on mental stimulation, others still need to work on the physical side of things. You can't say a tight PF doesn't cause pre E, cause it can and does for many.

    Keep up the good work. One day you will be able to think about having sex, while you are having sex, and still maintain control

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    • #3
      Originally posted by plays alot View Post
      It's great that you are figuring out what is behind your premature ejaculation. We are all different, and need to focus on what our unique issues are, just like you said. While you need to focus on mental stimulation, others still need to work on the physical side of things. You can't say a tight PF doesn't cause pre E, cause it can and does for many.

      Keep up the good work. One day you will be able to think about having sex, while you are having sex, and still maintain control
      I didn't mean for it to sound so direct and firm haha I'm just saying I think there's so many other factors that are seriously overlooked and a majority of people are married to the idea of it always being a physical problem.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by hardcore958 View Post
        I didn't mean for it to sound so direct and firm haha I'm just saying I think there's so many other factors that are seriously overlooked and a majority of people are married to the idea of it always being a physical problem.
        Well, in this site I have actually learned that it is not a physical-only issue, but rather a combination of both. On the mental part I clearly can relate the problem of not knowing plateau because I used to masturbate quickly to avoid getting caught on it, but to achieve those quick orgasms I also remember I kegeled like a maniac.

        So that's what I think, approaching it physically and mentally can improve your chances of overcoming it.
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        Last edited by Fighting; 01-16-2016, 04:15 PM.

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        • #5
          The it's all in your head view was pushed by the medical community for many years and it did not work well .
          The prevailing view onsite is that there are several causes.
          Some authors onsite like myself deal in the physical aspects of pre e . This has lead to cutting edge physical treatment much copied throughout the web . Mainstream medical is now starting to use some of the same techniques used here for years.
          That is not to say all pre e is totally physical.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
            The it's all in your head view was pushed by the medical community for many years and it did not work well .
            The prevailing view onsite is that there are several causes.
            Some authors onsite like myself deal in the physical aspects of pre e . This has lead to cutting edge physical treatment much copied throughout the web . Mainstream medical is now starting to use some of the same techniques used here for years.
            That is not to say all pre e is totally physical.
            But that's just the thing... I never said its all in my head for no reason... It's all in my head as a result of over stimulation to porn. The medical community is just beginning to study and understand better how porn affects the brain and the connection to porn and PE from a doctors standpoint is foreign to most.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by hardcore958 View Post
              But that's just the thing... I never said its all in my head for no reason... It's all in my head as a result of over stimulation to porn. The medical community is just beginning to study and understand better how porn affects the brain and the connection to porn and PE from a doctors standpoint is foreign to most.
              This issue has been known and commented about onsite for some time. It's good the medical community are beginning to look at it.
              It seems to me our pre e forum has so much going on it can be hard to find specific elements.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by hardcore958 View Post
                But that's just the thing... I never said its all in my head for no reason... It's all in my head as a result of over stimulation to porn. The medical community is just beginning to study and understand better how porn affects the brain and the connection to porn and PE from a doctors standpoint is foreign to most.
                This issue is frequently commented on in the ed forum also btw.

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                • #9
                  My opinion only but I believe the major cause of PE is overactive/oversensitive nervous system. This is not saying it's all in your head but rather fight or flight response kicks straight away for people with PE when they are aroused. This is why you can go as long as you want when edging but watch porn and you'll ejaculate quickly. I mean your not nervous when watching porn but the sympathetic kicks in straight away as a response from the arousal. Whereas it would kick in more slowly with a person without PE.

                  Physical measures such as rk/k and in particular plateau edging will assist, but I think other measures need to b considered.

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                  • #10
                    So what measures do you suggest.?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by winky420 View Post
                      My opinion only but I believe the major cause of PE is overactive/oversensitive nervous system. This is not saying it's all in your head but rather fight or flight response kicks straight away for people with PE when they are aroused. This is why you can go as long as you want when edging but watch porn and you'll ejaculate quickly. I mean your not nervous when watching porn but the sympathetic kicks in straight away as a response from the arousal. Whereas it would kick in more slowly with a person without PE.

                      Physical measures such as rk/k and in particular plateau edging will assist, but I think other measures need to b considered.
                      So you are saying that a person that is ticklish can never train themselves to be not ticklish. That it is all a physical result of an over sensitive nervous system. And you can't tickle yourself because you are not nervous when doing it?

                      That sounds silly to me. You most certainly can train yourself to not be ticklish. Pre-e is a combination of mental anticipation and not having direct control of what is going on. New sensations that need to be experienced and understood. When you edge of masturbate, you are in control. Here is a rather interesting story that may or may not pertain, but illustrates the power of the mind. I have a pretty rough gag reflex. I avoid dentists like the plague, but every now and then I have to go. The last session was to remove a wisdom tooth that had become inflamed. The dentist tried to use his direct techniques and I kept dry heaving - it was an awful session (tears running down my face). The more he tried, the tougher it got. However, and this is the interesting part, I can stick my own fingers in my mouth and not have a problem. Armed with this knowledge, I reached up, grabbed a hold of the dentists wrist, and he was able to continue with the procedure without a single gag as long as I held on to his hand. How strange was that! Nothing changed except that in my mind, I was in control and it was an extension of my hand in my mouth not the dentists. So I think that you can train the mind to overcome things that are physical.

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                      • #12
                        By using a firmer grip when edging, I have been able to last considerably longer during sex. It trained my nervous system to get used to a tighter sensation. I am proof and others that you can change that response.

                        This has also made a huge difference in the mental aspect. I always had issues lasting.Once I started having sex and it didn't improve, I came to a point where sex has been impossible without me thinking of lasting and getting anxiety. I think the Dr are somewhat right about PE partial being in your head. Once I seen I was improving and could last, it allowed me to start relaxing more and not be overwhelming. That in turn also helped me last longer.

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                        • #13
                          Kegeling at inopportune times can trigger ejaculation. It's ironic, because a well timed kegel can also halt ejaculation- it's all in the timing. This is especially the case if you're close to the PONR.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Spoonman84 View Post
                            By using a firmer grip when edging, I have been able to last considerably longer during sex. It trained my nervous system to get used to a tighter sensation. I am proof and others that you can change that response.

                            This has also made a huge difference in the mental aspect. I always had issues lasting.Once I started having sex and it didn't improve, I came to a point where sex has been impossible without me thinking of lasting and getting anxiety. I think the Dr are somewhat right about PE partial being in your head. Once I seen I was improving and could last, it allowed me to start relaxing more and not be overwhelming. That in turn also helped me last longer.
                            Ok so we see this a lot physical training helping the mental aspects.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
                              Ok so we see this a lot physical training helping the mental aspects.
                              Absolutely. Having life long PE I would always worry and think about lasting. To me this was the worst part of PE not being able to just focus on the moment, more than getting of quickly. When I started switching to the tighter grip, I still worried but it made me last longer regardless of anxiety , and once I had a little confidence, it made a big difference dealing with anxiety / mental, and that made me last even longer. I'm sure a lot Of PE suffers have. This is not saying it starts mental but highly believe it makes the issues worse once it gets there.

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