Ralphs improved pre E thread

**SoftMmoNoPreE** · 04-19-2017

Originally Posted by RalphPhoLauren

How old are you now? And I don't know, pelvic floor tension is a problem but how does that help me with the sensitivity of my frenulum? Its hard for me to believe that doing a ton of hindi squats and RKs ( I don't ever try to kegel at all on my own) will correlate tot he sensitivity in my penis going down which is what I would consider my main problem.

4/18/2017

Had a 15 minute edging session and got better at breathing correctly but session was horrible in terms of stopping and going. Is stopping and going counter productive to treating my Pre E? No ejaculation though! Also did 2 x 4 minutes of hindi squats.

Sensitivity isn't the problem. Ejaculation is. We want as much pleasure as possible with ejaculatory control. Awareness and control of the pelvic floor will help.

No. Stop and gos are recommended if thats all you can do.

**RalphPhoLauren** · 04-19-2017

Originally Posted by SoftMmoNoPreE

Sensitivity isn't the problem. Ejaculation is. We want as much pleasure as possible with ejaculatory control. Awareness and control of the pelvic floor will help.

No. Stop and gos are recommended if thats all you can do.

So you're saying that the sensitivity should never change, just being able to not have the sensivity convert into a hard IK and make ejaculation happen? From what I feel, when it feels too good which is a lot of the time, I go in the stu and the sensation starts at my frenulum and kinda shoots into my pelvic floor. This causes me to kegel/clench anus and also making my pelvic floor hard/not relaxed/stiff

**andrewvi7** · 04-19-2017

Yes, sitting up for me too helps with decreased sensitity and me lasting longer but only to a certain extent. And if you think about it there aren't really any sex positions besides maybe one where you can sit up like that. yeah its good to find positions you can last in immediatley but the goal is to be able to do every position and last as long as ya want.

This is also the same with mornings. You can't always have morning sex but yes it would be nice haha.

It's not about having sex in specifically seated positions so you can last longer... I mentioned it because a slight change in the angle at which you sit has had an enormous impact on how your pelvic floor reacts to that change, which can easily be determined by the huge drop in your PONR while edging.

So here's the punch line, if you can fuck like a champ in the morning when your pelvic floor is rested and then have a 3 stroke nut in the evening then it's nothing to do with chemical bodily imbalances, nothing to do with penis sensitivity, none of that. It's simply your pelvic floor being over worked during the day, and when it needs to perform for sex in the afternoon or the evening, it gives out after the 3rd stroke.... It becomes clear why some people do not see much progress with edging, ballooning etc. They're trying to cure the symptoms not the core problem. So the next question becomes, why is our pelvic floor so over-engaged during the day as opposed to the people that do not have PE or even suffer DE

So you're saying that the sensitivity should never change, just being able to not have the sensivity convert into a hard IK and make ejaculation happen? From what I feel, when it feels too good which is a lot of the time, I go in the and the sensation starts at my frenulum and kinda shoots into my pelvic floor. This causes me to kegel/clench anus and also making my pelvic floor hard/not relaxed/stiff

All sensitivity is, is your pelvic floor becoming tighter with more blood being pumped into your penis which causes your sensation to sky rocket for the purpose of ejaculation. Relax the pelvic floor, blood pressure decreases slightly and the sensation balances. Hope it makes sense

Note: Interesting video on the lower body which i think might be part of the core problem described above. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-CrEi0ymMg&t=370s

**RalphPhoLauren** · 04-19-2017

Originally Posted by andrewvi7

It's not about having sex in specifically seated positions so you can last longer... I mentioned it because a slight change in the angle at which you sit has had an enormous impact on how your pelvic floor reacts to that change, which can easily be determined by the huge drop in your PONR while edging.

So here's the punch line, if you can fuck like a champ in the morning when your pelvic floor is rested and then have a 3 stroke nut in the evening then it's nothing to do with chemical bodily imbalances, nothing to do with penis sensitivity, none of that. It's simply your pelvic floor being over worked during the day, and when it needs to perform for sex in the afternoon or the evening, it gives out after the 3rd stroke.... It becomes clear why some people do not see much progress with edging, ballooning etc. They're trying to cure the symptoms not the core problem. So the next question becomes, why is our pelvic floor so over-engaged during the day as opposed to the people that do not have PE or even suffer DE

All sensitivity is, is your pelvic floor becoming tighter with more blood being pumped into your penis which causes your sensation to sky rocket for the purpose of ejaculation. Relax the pelvic floor, blood pressure decreases slightly and the sensation balances. Hope it makes sense

Note: Interesting video on the lower body which i think might be part of the core problem described above. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-CrEi0ymMg&t=370s

Thank you, this does make a lot more sense. Hopefully I didn't come off like a dick was just trying to understand you more. So, I don't know if you know the answer or not but, have you answered the question about the people whose pelvic floors aren't over engaged during the day and don't have pre e or suffer from DE? I know sitting for long periods of time isn't good for your pelvic floor, but I feel for the most part we are mostly on our asses all day, unless someone has a job where they are getting active. And idk if yours is like this, but I don't feel that my pelvic floor is tight during the day, just when I engage in sex or edging.

**andrewvi7** · 04-20-2017

Thank you, this does make a lot more sense. Hopefully I didn't come off like a dick was just trying to understand you more. So, I don't know if you know the answer or not but, have you answered the question about the people whose pelvic floors aren't over engaged during the day and don't have pre e or suffer from DE? I know sitting for long periods of time isn't good for your pelvic floor, but I feel for the most part we are mostly on our asses all day, unless someone has a job where they are getting active. And idk if yours is like this, but I don't feel that my pelvic floor is tight during the day, just when I engage in sex or edging.

Don't worry about it mate, we're all in the same boat here but no i haven't found an answer yet. I know i only noticed my own tightness after i started doing hindi squats and started paying attention to how different it felt at the bottom of the squat position vs how it felt after i got up and started walking around. Started trying to relax it every time i could but could only properly do it once i wasn't in motion, so stopped walking and concentrated on releasing the tension.

See this is exactly what my lifestyle was/is like, i sit 8-10hours a day for work, then at home etc, with majority of it slouching probably. I have been working out for years however and have built a decent amount of muscle, thought i think my PE still persists because I've neglected certain muscle groups while over-training others (Strong quads and lower back, weak hamstrings, glutes and abs = recipe for anterior tilt and maybe PE?).

Another good video that explain how having an anterior tilt puts constant pressure on your lower back so it's always slightly over-engaged https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6q335aFeP4 .... Maybe along with engaging the lower back, the pelvic floor is also heavily affected?

My goal right now is to strengthen the abs, glutes and hamstrings while only stretching out the quads and calves and see if i have any progress, though I cant start my new training regime yet due to injury. So might be a while until i cant post some results.

**RalphPhoLauren** · 04-20-2017

Originally Posted by andrewvi7

Don't worry about it mate, we're all in the same boat here but no i haven't found an answer yet. I know i only noticed my own tightness after i started doing hindi squats and started paying attention to how different it felt at the bottom of the squat position vs how it felt after i got up and started walking around. Started trying to relax it every time i could but could only properly do it once i wasn't in motion, so stopped walking and concentrated on releasing the tension.

See this is exactly what my lifestyle was/is like, i sit 8-10hours a day for work, then at home etc, with majority of it slouching probably. I have been working out for years however and have built a decent amount of muscle, thought i think my PE still persists because I've neglected certain muscle groups while over-training others (Strong quads and lower back, weak hamstrings, glutes and abs = recipe for anterior tilt and maybe PE?).

Another good video that explain how having an anterior tilt puts constant pressure on your lower back so it's always slightly over-engaged https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6q335aFeP4 .... Maybe along with engaging the lower back, the pelvic floor is also heavily affected?

My goal right now is to strengthen the abs, glutes and hamstrings while only stretching out the quads and calves and see if i have any progress, though I cant start my new training regime yet due to injury. So might be a while until i cant post some results.

I'm like 90% sure I have an anterior pelvic tilt but not sure how to fix it. It seems like working out and getting all those muscle groups strengthen properly is goign to take sometime. Let me know how it goes man!

4/19/2017

Had a pretty good edging session for about 15 minutes. This was my third one so my next step will be 20 minute edging sessions. Also did 2 x 4 minute hindi squats. Gotta get more consistent and get in that third set.

**rapid** · 04-20-2017

Originally Posted by RalphPhoLauren

I'm like 90% sure I have an anterior pelvic tilt but not sure how to fix it. It seems like working out and getting all those muscle groups strengthen properly is goign to take sometime. Let me know how it goes man!
4/19/2017
Had a pretty good edging session for about 15 minutes. This was my third one so my next step will be 20 minute edging sessions. Also did 2 x 4 minute hindi squats. Gotta get more consistent and get in that third set.

Add reverse kegel in the routine, it will give much more better result combined with hindi squats and edging

**RalphPhoLauren** · 04-20-2017

Originally Posted by rapid

Add reverse kegel in the routine, it will give much more better result combined with hindi squats and edging

I have been trying to RKs throughout the day but i've been drinking a ton of water so everytime i go to RK I can't hold for long or else i'll pee on myself haha.

**rapid** · 04-20-2017

Originally Posted by RalphPhoLauren

I have been trying to RKs throughout the day but i've been drinking a ton of water so everytime i go to RK I can't hold for long or else i'll pee on myself haha.

haha if its really the case then do this.
whenever you finish peeing then after 2 minutes do rks, it will be easy man.

**RalphPhoLauren** · 04-23-2017

4/22/17

Had my first 20 minute sessions and it was a lot of stopping but i think that was due to me having to go pee. Didn't ejaculate and from now on I will try to RK away the IKs when they come. Also did 2 x 4 minutes of hindi squats