Solved routine cure my premature ejaculation - Feedback needed - Will post progress.

[JanTantra]

Haven't edged the last two days since my girlfriend was ill, so she didn't left the house, however we tried to have sex yesterday before bedtime. It was slow due to her stomach pains, and I did notice a bit better control than I used to, since it was slow I focused on not IK when penetrating, and I felt I had kinda good control. Unfortunately we never got up to speed because we had to stop due to her pains. I totally accepted that and just stopped without any questions and without being aroused and feel the need to finish. So we just kissed and cuddled, it was kinda nice actually. And I really felt she like me being in better not so over-aroused control.

Any way todays edging session alone
It was a really nice session today. I started out with my new routine. However I wanted a long session today, so started with 10 minutes rubbing instead og 7 minutes, then 10 minutes stroking. Lastly I took 25 minutes of free play with DeathGrip at the tip of penis, rubbing, ballooning etc. and I was really enjoying it. I had one real PONR where I had to stop all stimulation and do a hard reverse-kegel, I was so close to PONR that I found it hard to do the reverse-kegel, but at one point I just relaxed which resulted in a small regular-kegel and then right back in reverse-kegel. It felt like I was kinda catching the IK and arousal with a regular-kegel and then just immediately slammed a touchdown in the ground with a reverse-kegel. It was so great and I was just lying there and smiling while I hold the reverse-kegel. There did come a lot of pre-cum, but it was totally clear in color, not white as usual. I just dried it off and continued edging, since I was stille very much erected.

I would normally have done only tip DeathGrip (see the GIFs) in my last post. However I found a new way to really be on the edge of PONR which I wanted to explore some more. I stretched the sheets on the duvet and which a tight grip around my penis I was grinding the head of my penis against the sheets. I found that my pee-hole is actually my most sensitive spot. And grinding it against the sheet was much more intense then when I rub it with my hand palm. I almost had the feeling like 5 seconds before I cum with a blowjob, were I feel my whole body wants to shake. At first I could only hold 10 seconds before I needed to do some other stimulation, but slowly I build up to 30 seconds while being relaxed. I will work more on that since it was almost like an intense PONR.


All in all a really great session today.

[theGOAT]

Keep going!

[JanTantra]

Awesome 60min session today!

Today I had an awesome edging session. 60 minutes without ejaculating and not feeling bored once. I had the feeling of cuming very much of the time, but in control and didn't. 60 minutes without ejaculating at the end is not what makes the session feel freaking awesome, it was the fact that I enjoyed it so much and that I was completely abled to relax and stay on the edge for very long time with only small breaks. It was amazing.

I must say that dmizzle is on to something when he says that DeathGrip is not the only way to go, but in fact just enjoy the very moment on the edge and learn how to relax and stay there is the key.

I did however spice it up with DeathGrip and especially the new 'rubbing penis head against duvet' trick (mentioned in previous post). The duvet-trick is so cool, it feels like when I am almost cuming in a blowjob, where I begin to tense my abs and feel an urge to shake a bit in my body. At the beginning I could only hold this for 10 seconds, but as the edging session progress I could take the stimulation directly on the head for 2-3 minutes maybe more and still be able to enjoy it and not be afraid to ejaculated even though I felt it really close to PONR and really intense stimulation. With more sessions likes this one, I really feel confident that I will beat this PE with time.

Also the fact that it is so enjoyable really motivates me, I can only imaging how such a session on the edge would feel in real sex.

Thanks dmizzle, at first I must say that I found the advices of being close to the edge the entire time a bit too spiritual, but I really see the benefits now, and think that this will also help 'desensitize' a bit or more proper way of saying it, is maybe just getting used to the nice stimulations without feeling the need to kegel and ejaculate.

Cool cool session, can't wait for the next.

[PaulC]

Well done I've been a bit off the boil in last week and a bit, so really getting back on it tonight and wanting to get that 60min session!

[JanTantra]

Had another session for 40 minutes yesterday, not quite as good as my previous. I didn't feel quite the same control, but at least I now know what to aim for. Also I ejaculated in the end which was not intended. However I was on 11th day without having ejaculated, so I just guess to much was build up inside me. I just need to keep practicing.

Also my new Fleshlights have arrived, together with the Fleshligt warmer. I look forward to test them out. I have read somewhere that they should be really intense when heated.

[JanTantra]

Hi. I’m glad the site got back up again.
(Still struggling with a lots of ‘max_user_connections’-errors though).


Meanwhile my ordered fleshlights (Stoya Destroya and Obession Bliss) arrived and I have had some chances to test them out. Until now I have just tried them one at a time in different sessions, however today I tested out all three together (Had the STU already) to compare and help others decide which one to use.




Fleshlight review and tips.
The STU was my first fleshlight. I got it 4 months ago and the first time I tried it, it felt really good and I struggled not to ejaculate within minutes when using it. At this point I have worked my self up to be able to fuck it for 30 minutes in a decent pace when standing up and thrusting into it. I am still struggling to fuck it for longer intervals when lying down in missionary even though I have tried many times now, that was the reason I bought the new Stoya and the Bliss in the hope that they were more intense. The theory was that if I could handle them while thrusting standed, then the STU would be easier to handle in missionary.


My first impression was that It seems that the Stoya and the Bliss are better quality than the STU, the skin color is more realistic and also I feel that the Stoya is a bit tighter. However I must say that I do not feel the same crazy intensity like the whole wide web seems to talk about when using Stoya and Bliss. They are kinda similar to the STU, so if you already have one I would just recommend to stick with that.


As you whom follows my progress log know, I am currently training with a dry DeathGrip, hence I also want the fleshlight to be tighter. I made some research and ended up purchasing some different o-rings to add on the fleshlight insert to make it tighter, and indeed it made a great difference, see the picture below.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/...533fcc4ffd.jpg


I tried o-rings of different inner sizes. 35mm, 40mm, 45mm and 50mm (the width of the rings was 4mm). My penis is 18cm in length and 14cm in girth when erect. The 35cm was too tight, but the 40mm and 45mm was nice (I am still thinking about which one to use, in the 40mm I could feel when I entered the ring quite a lot, but it was also a bit hard. With the 45mm it was more natural though still tight.) The 50 was not tight enough, I think.


Using the o-rings I would recommend buying the Stoya and use o-rings on it, but if you have any of the fleshlights already I think, just buy the o-rings, they are cheap so try them out first.




Fleshlight review turned into 2 hours great edging session.
The tryout of the fleshlights turned into a really great 2 hour session of edging and I didn’t ejaculate. I noticed that it was most intense the first 10 minutes, but from there I ended up just enjoying the whole session without IKs, I did however had to stop sometimes when my focus on the stimulation got me too close to the edge. So I should work more on my arousal and bring that down without stopping. But after an hour I just fucked wild and crazy, I was tired afterwards. It was mostly standing since I have the best control standing. I would love to do that during real sex.



In the session I noticed the following things that push me towards the edge:

- First 10 minutes is most intense, after I come close to PONR and stop and relax I can go for a long time afterwards. I need to train my ‘cold start’ and not getting to close to PONR the first 10 minutes.

- When focusing too much on the sensation and focus on the deep rhythm where I have a tendency to steady increase the pace without being ready for it.

- When i am lying on my back and holding the fleshlight while I wrist my hand, such that I get a lot of friction on frenulum, it feels like my girlfriend rides me. It pushed me to PONR in seconds, I need to train for that.

- Missionary is the worst position for me, so any advice on how to relax in that position would be great. I tense my body in that position which pushes me towards PONR.




All in all a really nice session, but I indeed have some things to work on, however I do feel improvements while edging. I have also seen small improvements during real sex, however not really consistent enough yet, but more on that in a later post.

[JanTantra]

Hi.

It has been long time since I last posted here. The site seems to be fully up and running again, so I will begin to post a little more.

In the 3 weeks since last post I have practicing 2 weeks DeathGrip as usual and can now control the IKs almost completely while masturbating with dry DeathGrip.

Hence I began to practicing with the Fleshlight where I wrist my hand such that I get a lot of friction on my frenulum. It is hard to control, so I have dedicated this week as a kickstart to learn to control it. My girlfriend is out of town with work, so I have been practicing 3 times a day, before work, right after work and before bedtime, 1 hour each time. I do feel improvements. I can now after a warmup of 10-15minutes fuck it in a good pace, also when I stand in kneeling doggy style.

I do actually enjoy it, it is more fun with the fleshlight than with DeathGrip, however I must say that without the intense months of DeathGrip were I learned to control the IKs, I do not think that I would be ready for the fleshlight.

When I come close to PONR the first time I try to decrease the stimulation just enough to not cum, it gets really intense and sometimes I end up just moving the fleshlight half and inch back and forth while I slowly manage to lower my arousal. This way I believe I learn two things; 1. lower my arousal while still being stimulated. 2. getting more used to stay around the pleasure near PONR without going over the edge.

After the 1-3 minutes practicing near PONR, the remaing 45 minutes is just nice and easy. I use the remaining time to learn the feeling of my body relaxing such that I can train to come in that state without the need to first go to PONR and play on the edge, which I know is much harder during real sex.

Well I feel I am on the right track and believe I should just keep practicing. I will let you know when my girlfriends gets back home, and can't wait to practicing edging using her pussy and see if I can benefit from the things I have learned.

Also a little note: I do not ejaculate while during edging alone, I only ejaculate with my girlfriend and sometimes I don't ejaculate together with her either, just to gets used to not always think about ejaculating in the end.

[Idontwannecome]

Just wanted to say I'm following youre thread!
Looking forward to see if it helped to last longer with you're gf!
Good luck man!

[JanTantra]

Finally some real progress during sex.

The Fleshlight week was fantastic. I did it three times a day for one hour. When waking up, when coming home from work and before bedtime. I ejaculated the very first time I started out, maybe I was to excited about the coming week, but didn't ejaculate all the other times.

Been practicing from monday to friday after work my plan was to allow myself to ejaculate, but didn't get the time before I was going to pick my girlfriend up. I was a little nervous on how I would perform because of 5 days without ejaculation, but turned it positive and though to my self that if I could handle all that hours of Fleshlight use, I could also handle sex now.

And it worked, I have much more control now. I still can't fuck fast, but in kneeling missionary where I thrust in her gently while stimulating her clitoris and can now stay in control, if only for a small break of 4-5 seconds while I continues stimulating her clitoris. Also in normal missionary I can thrust slowly for longer time than before.

My girlfriend was not in the mood to orgasm because she was tired after a long trip back home, so I decided to not ejaculate either and share our orgasms together later instead. The next morning we tried again, but she was still not in the mood so I stopped. The same day at the evening we tried again and had really great sex, and I did do much more thrusting than I normal would. It was great, when she orgasmed while a was stimulating her clitoris while thrusting a little bit back and forth I couldn't hold it and ejaculated. Afterward I thought I might should have stopped to learn how to control near PONR while having real sex, but that must be another time.

Yesterday I also had great sex and what felt like a break through was that I could really feel my orgasm building up, like I could feel the need to ejaculate builded up much more slowly than normal, it took maybe 20 seconds from I felt the need to ejaculate before I actually did it, and I could feel my pelvic floor slowly began to tense up. I even said loud to my girlfriend "I am coming now" and then from their it still took 5 seconds. It was really great. My girlfriend had orgasmed during clitoris stimulation at that time so I allowed my self to ejaculate, but next time I experience that I will force my self to stop and get my arousal down, and then try again.


Another long post from me, but I try to write down every detail, it helps me remember what to improve and maybe it will help another guy like me also.


Unfortunately I cannot do 3 times Fleshlight a day when my girlfriend is home, but I strive to do it 4 times a week instead. I will continue working on feeling the orgasm building up and force my self to stop and cool down or even stay near the PONR while having sex. I will say to my self 3 times near PONR and staying there during real sex and then I must ejaculate if I feel for it.

[theGOAT]

Good Job, well deserved