Alright so its been a few years now and i finally know enough about myself to understand why i have premature ejaculation.
I believe my ic muscle is the reason i have such a hard time controlling my pelvic floor. Until now, i couldnt tell the difference between an ic contraction and a pc/bc contraction. In my case, i can activate my IC muscle by doing a slight kegel, but not enough to where i activate my pc/bc. It took me a while to figure this out, and i didnt realize this until i actually started using a homeade device (which ill tell you about in a sec) and pushing down on my pelvic area to see how my muscles reacted during edging. All this time i edged thinking that these uncontrollable contractions were coming from my pc/bc muscles, when in reality my pc/bc muscles were almost completely relaxed. The only muscle contracting was my ic muscle, which only contracts when i start feeling pleasure, and causes my penis head to become very sensitive leading to orgasm.
When i first started doing kegels, all i did was flex my pelvic area hard enough to activate the IC, which stabilizes the penis. My pc and bc muscles were barely used. To make matters worse, i did erect kegel weighted exercises, judging a complete rep based on the highest point i could raise my penis. The problem with this exercise is that i worked my ic muscle, since thats all that was required to raise my penis.
I started to catch wind of this, so during my edging sessions i touched my pelvic area to see which muscles contracted the most, and sure enough, it was the ic muscle. I couldnt tell how much the pc and bc muscles were being engaged, but that all changed when i make a replica of the MPT male pelvic trainer out of clay. I know this is a little weird, but i shaped my own MPT withclay and dipped it in melted hot glue gun sticks to make it water proof. Then i sprayed some gloss glaze on it to make it more waterproof and slippery. Basically what you do is add weight to it and insert it into your...uhmm...anus...and flex your pelvic floor muscles. The shape of the MPT allows you to lift the weight with your pc/bc muscles. It works way better than i expected.
The first thing i noticed using this device is that my normal kegel would not lift the weight. I had to push a little harder to activate the pc/bc. Flexing my ic had no effect, so i know when im doing a real kegel and when im not because the weight wont go up if i dont push harder to engage the pc muscle.
With this in mind, i decided to edge with the MPT replica. This way, ill know when my pc/bc muscles are flexing as opposed to my ic muscles. Also, i took off the weight so that im not doing a conscious kegel just to keep it from falling out.
I found out that the first stroke engages my pc muscle for half a second, then it relaxes for the entire time until orgasm(Guess all those weighted squats paid off). My ic muscle on the other hand, is only relaxed when i experience lower levels of pleasure. Once the feeling starts getting good, my ic muscle contracts, and stays contracted, moving the base of my penis closer to my ball sack. As soon as this happens, i start to feel the PONR approaching really fast. In fact i have to stop right then and there or else im done. At this point my pc muscle is still relaxed, although i cant relax my ic muscle, not even with a reverse kegel.
After this i did even more research on the forums about the ic muscle, and it finally makes sense why i cant reverse kegel after a year and a half. A few people on the forums said that when they consciously flex their ic muscle, it prevents them from doing a rear reverse kegel, which makes sense.
So here i am with these overly developed ic muscles and average pc/bc muscles. I wouldnt know how a balanced pelvic floor behaves so i dont really know how to go about fixing this problem. If my ic muscle wasn't so strong, i could probably cancel it out with a reverse kegel, but i think im past that point. Perhaps theres a way to weaken the ic muscle. Perhaps we can figure out a way to stretch the IC muscle. Maybe thats what a reverse kegel does and im just not doing them correctly. At this point im just throwing my thoughts out there.
What do you guys think i should do? Im very curious as to how your ic muscle behaves as opposed to your pc/bc. Any thoughts/advice would be greatly appreciated.
I believe my ic muscle is the reason i have such a hard time controlling my pelvic floor. Until now, i couldnt tell the difference between an ic contraction and a pc/bc contraction. In my case, i can activate my IC muscle by doing a slight kegel, but not enough to where i activate my pc/bc. It took me a while to figure this out, and i didnt realize this until i actually started using a homeade device (which ill tell you about in a sec) and pushing down on my pelvic area to see how my muscles reacted during edging. All this time i edged thinking that these uncontrollable contractions were coming from my pc/bc muscles, when in reality my pc/bc muscles were almost completely relaxed. The only muscle contracting was my ic muscle, which only contracts when i start feeling pleasure, and causes my penis head to become very sensitive leading to orgasm.
When i first started doing kegels, all i did was flex my pelvic area hard enough to activate the IC, which stabilizes the penis. My pc and bc muscles were barely used. To make matters worse, i did erect kegel weighted exercises, judging a complete rep based on the highest point i could raise my penis. The problem with this exercise is that i worked my ic muscle, since thats all that was required to raise my penis.
I started to catch wind of this, so during my edging sessions i touched my pelvic area to see which muscles contracted the most, and sure enough, it was the ic muscle. I couldnt tell how much the pc and bc muscles were being engaged, but that all changed when i make a replica of the MPT male pelvic trainer out of clay. I know this is a little weird, but i shaped my own MPT withclay and dipped it in melted hot glue gun sticks to make it water proof. Then i sprayed some gloss glaze on it to make it more waterproof and slippery. Basically what you do is add weight to it and insert it into your...uhmm...anus...and flex your pelvic floor muscles. The shape of the MPT allows you to lift the weight with your pc/bc muscles. It works way better than i expected.
The first thing i noticed using this device is that my normal kegel would not lift the weight. I had to push a little harder to activate the pc/bc. Flexing my ic had no effect, so i know when im doing a real kegel and when im not because the weight wont go up if i dont push harder to engage the pc muscle.
With this in mind, i decided to edge with the MPT replica. This way, ill know when my pc/bc muscles are flexing as opposed to my ic muscles. Also, i took off the weight so that im not doing a conscious kegel just to keep it from falling out.
I found out that the first stroke engages my pc muscle for half a second, then it relaxes for the entire time until orgasm(Guess all those weighted squats paid off). My ic muscle on the other hand, is only relaxed when i experience lower levels of pleasure. Once the feeling starts getting good, my ic muscle contracts, and stays contracted, moving the base of my penis closer to my ball sack. As soon as this happens, i start to feel the PONR approaching really fast. In fact i have to stop right then and there or else im done. At this point my pc muscle is still relaxed, although i cant relax my ic muscle, not even with a reverse kegel.
After this i did even more research on the forums about the ic muscle, and it finally makes sense why i cant reverse kegel after a year and a half. A few people on the forums said that when they consciously flex their ic muscle, it prevents them from doing a rear reverse kegel, which makes sense.
So here i am with these overly developed ic muscles and average pc/bc muscles. I wouldnt know how a balanced pelvic floor behaves so i dont really know how to go about fixing this problem. If my ic muscle wasn't so strong, i could probably cancel it out with a reverse kegel, but i think im past that point. Perhaps theres a way to weaken the ic muscle. Perhaps we can figure out a way to stretch the IC muscle. Maybe thats what a reverse kegel does and im just not doing them correctly. At this point im just throwing my thoughts out there.
What do you guys think i should do? Im very curious as to how your ic muscle behaves as opposed to your pc/bc. Any thoughts/advice would be greatly appreciated.
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