After Bashing PE, I'm giving it one final Go (Progress Pics will be included)

[I_feel_small Member Find all posts View Profile Close I_feel_small]

2 Years Ago, I made a post titled: "Indisputable proof that manual penis enlargement is a myth."
Personally, I'm quite the skeptic about PE, due to past failures, HOWEVER I want give it one final try.

What changed my mind is now that i'm finally sleeping well for the first time in my life, 8 hours of quality sleep per night, i'm in a better headspace emotionally, and hopefully in a better physical health to grow better. As before I was dealing with pretty massively unhealthy sleep dysfunction.The sleep issue I figured this may have been a central reason for my poor results.... given how much better im feeling these days lol, and how essential sleep is to hormones that promote growth. (eg: HGH)

I'm also dedicated to eating very healthy, and i lift 4x a week and do cardio 2x a week and bodyweight lifts 2x a week on same day as cardio. I'm currently living a fully healthy life. My nutrition, sleep, and strength training is very dialed in. Would like to take some hormones to assist this process however im not ready to go down that road just quite yet.

I read Derrick White's Ebook and was inspired by his logic that, "you should focus on gaining girth or length one at a time." That made sense to me. He also detests manual PE like myself, and prefers devices... like myself.

So, I'm going to do a 6month penis pump routine. I recently purchased a Penomet penis pump premium package. It came with 5 different strength of gaiters.

The Plan
The plan is to incrementally move up in time spent pumping, and the strength of the gaiters.

I'm starting at 5 min with weakest gaiter, and then moving up 1 min per section till i hit 20 min.

Derrek recommends to never go over 20min per session, so ill cap at 20min.

I'll then just move up in strength of gaiters and adjust time spent on new gaiters based on comfort... or rather PIs.

The idea is to reach the strongest gaiter for 20 min, and then maintain there. At that point i assume my temporary gains will be very noticeable day to day, and will be close crossing over to permanency by then.

I'm a little confused on what i should do for rest days. The plan i came up with is Mon,Tue,Wed,Thur,Fri,Sat: ON Sun: OFF
HOWEVER, if I cannot get hard for my session, or am experiencing other negative PIs on top of that, I will just take a rest day. Neutral PIs will remain irrelevant.

Also, I will be watching no porn, or will be doing no masturbating in this process. I don't want masturbation fatigue to cut into my pump sessions.

Here's a picture of my starting size (5.75 Non Bone Press x 4.25 Mid Shaft Girth): https://ibb.co/JBbmbGX



I'll be back with a progress pic in about 6 months.... and i'll be honest about how dedicated i was or wasn't to the process. I have a feeling it will work this time... I'm excited to have a bigger dick! IF this girth routine works, ill be buying a size genetics right after and work on on reaching 7 inch length.


(Any tips about rest/recovery or anything else to do pump strict routines would be mighty appreciated!)

[tank0909 Senior Member Member of the Month Jan. 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close tank0909]

I definitely recommend doing 1 day on, 1 day off when starting. Also, don't discount manuals while pumping. You want to heat and stretch before pumping to get the tissues ready. Jelqing before and in between your pump sets can be pretty beneficial, in my opinion. Doing it beforehand loosens up the tissues more. Doing it between, with some Firegoats rolls, helps move the blood around and can reduce/prevent discoloration. Start off slow and light and find what works best for you.

Instead of just coming back in 6 months, why not start a log on here? A log will be very helpful in your journey.

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

When I was actively pumping, I was pumping twice a day for 20minutes, at5 hg, five or six days a week.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

It's difficult to prove a negative. That being said, it's good to read you're going to give male enhancement a try!

Make sure you place EQ training as a priority. Without good (and improving) EQ, your gains will be harder to come by.

[Pound_per_inch Senior Member Member of the Month Jan 2020 Find all posts View Profile Close Pound_per_inch]

Definitely keep a log.

Your pic is interesting as the perspective shot filling the frame makes your unit look huge. It's worth baring in mind when we think about how porn can skew the mind with camera tricks and Frame perspective.

That said, your at least average size. Bone pressed you may be over.

Just go a bit easier on yourself and enjoy it. It's not a battle.

[SoraSora Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SoraSora]

So, I'm going to do a 6month penis pump routine. I recently purchased a Penomet penis pump premium package. It came with 5 different strength of gaiters.

(Any tips about rest/recovery or anything else to do pump strict routines would be mighty appreciated!)

In my personal experience being on the forums for 3 or 4 years, pumping won't get you much in terms of gains. You can, but it takes years and years to do what can take you months, and you'll potentially drop in EQ over time as well.

Pumping will give you a nice quick visual boost which will feel cool and all, but something more in line with your body's pace of doing things, such as JP90, where it's warm up, followed by forms of stretching and jelqing, is far more likely to see true gains over a period of time. I personally feel my own routine in my log is most likely to yield one results after taking a few years to discover it, but I'm naturally quite biased given the nice results its given me.

[tank0909 Senior Member Member of the Month Jan. 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close tank0909]

When I was actively pumping, I was pumping twice a day for 20minutes, at5 hg, five or six days a week.

I would make my way to 9-11hg towards the end of my sets on pump days and needed the day off afterwards. (Not to be done anytime soon, OP) This does bring up the point of listening to your body and not overdoing anything.

[BallsMahoney Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close BallsMahoney]

Best of luck in your journey man. I was also very skeptical of PE. I lurked around this forum for months before joining, just reading testimonials and looking at people's signatures in complete disbelief. I finally joined and now 9 months later my penis has grown over 1" BPEL and 1/2" in girth and still very much growing. PE is very very real. I'm so thankful I took the plunge and have stayed dedicated. I'm excited to see how big I can grow my whang!!!

Its real bro. There are hundreds of dudes on here and thunders who have grown some legit huge dicks. My advice is keep a log and stay consistent and rest a couple days a week. You'll grow like a weed.

My recommendations are: take more than just Sunday off. Try a 2 on 1 off, or 3 on 1 off schedule. I'm also a pumper, but I feel you should do manual work as well. Personally I pump for 15m in the morning, and again at night only if I have good PI's. I believe pumping in conjunction with manual work like jelqing or the big al squeeze is the way to make gains...eventually Uli's/clamping too. Take it slow and listen to your body.

[master-gauge Senior Member Member of the Month May 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close master-gauge]

Best of luck, basically prepare for a 2.5 yr commitment before coming to any finally conclusions on PE.. This is a marathon, not a sprint especially doing manual work..

[BigKnob Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close BigKnob]

In my personal experience being on the forums for 3 or 4 years, pumping won't get you much in terms of gains. You can, but it takes years and years to do what can take you months, and you'll potentially drop in EQ over time as well.

Pumping will give you a nice quick visual boost which will feel cool and all, but something more in line with your body's pace of doing things, such as JP90, where it's warm up, followed by forms of stretching and jelqing, is far more likely to see true gains over a period of time. I personally feel my own routine in my log is most likely to yield one results after taking a few years to discover it, but I'm naturally quite biased given the nice results its given me.

As someone who gained from pumping within a few months I disagree with everything you say. People who dont gain from pumping(atleast the bathmate) are people who are doing it wrong just like with all other PE

To OP: seems like you know what you are doing, despite of not knowing what pump u use, assuming its legit, im confident you will gain within 6 months

[SoraSora Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close SoraSora]

As someone who gained from pumping within a few months I disagree with everything you say. People who dont gain from pumping(atleast the bathmate) are people who are doing it wrong just like with all other PE

To OP: seems like you know what you are doing, despite of not knowing what pump u use, assuming its legit, im confident you will gain within 6 months

This is true too For what it's worth, pumping seems very enjoyable on many fronts!

I do maintain my own personal bias towards manual PE, but if you've gained yourself with a pump, it could definitely show the potential for pumping as well!

[BigKnob Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close BigKnob]

This is true too For what it's worth, pumping seems very enjoyable on many fronts!

I do maintain my own personal bias towards manual PE, but if you've gained yourself with a pump, it could definitely show the potential for pumping as well!

I think most of the doubt around whether pumping is permanent or not is because there are so many shitty knockoffs for like 20$ that will never work, and also people who complain after not gaining for 1-3 months of training 2-3 times a week

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Pumping can be an almost foolproof way to make gains, but it follows a different curve of progress compared to other methods. To clarify- with most forms of training the bulk of gains are seen early on. With pumping, one usually has to get to the point to where they're able to pump for 20-30 minutes at a time to start seeing a dramatic level of tissue expansion. This is when the gains start to accelerate for pumping

[BigKnob Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close BigKnob]

Pumping can be an almost foolproof way to make gains, but it follows a different curve of progress compared to other methods. To clarify- with most forms of training the bulk of gains are seen early on. With pumping, one usually has to get to the point to where they're able to pump for 20-30 minutes at a time to start seeing a dramatic level of tissue expansion. This is when the gains start to accelerate for pumping

Couldnt have said it better

[I_feel_small Member Find all posts View Profile Close I_feel_small]

Hi Tank, I got a log, paper and pen. If all goes well, ill prob just write it all out at once for people to see. The guy im getting advice says i could do jelqing every other night or something in conjunction with pumping to accelerate gains, but he says it's not necessary... so due to personal preference, im going to pass on that. I really dislike jelqing. And thank you for the advice on warming up, i actually forgot to mention that part, i am running hot water on my dick for 5 min and doing some stretching before pump session.