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  1. 03-30-2020 #11
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    3/30 -- 10 min warmup, 15 min stretches, 150 jelqs, 4x 30 sec uli, 10 min edging with climax (Low Intensity Day)
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    START : 2/6/2020
    BPEL : 5.875" - BaseEG : 5.25" - MSEG : 5.0"
    CURRENT : 2/10/2021
    BPEL : 7.875" - BaseEG : 5.625" - MSEG : 5.5"

    BPEL GOAL : 7.5+" - MSEG GOAL : 5.75+"

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  2. 03-30-2020 #12
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    Good looking program yogi! Keep it up. My length shot way up very early too, its a huge motivator to continue PE.
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    Start: 5/28/2019 BPEL - 6.25, EG - 4.75
    Current: 3/5/2021 BPEL - 7.5, EG - 5.5
    Long Term Goal: BPEL - 8, EG - 6
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  3. 03-30-2020 #13
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    Thanks, Balls. It's definitely a motivator when you see an 1/8" every 2 weeks or so. I'm hoping it continues, but I keep thinking a plateau is coming. We'll see. I'm definitely looking at this as a 1-2 year journey, so I'm just getting started.
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    START : 2/6/2020
    BPEL : 5.875" - BaseEG : 5.25" - MSEG : 5.0"
    CURRENT : 2/10/2021
    BPEL : 7.875" - BaseEG : 5.625" - MSEG : 5.5"

    BPEL GOAL : 7.5+" - MSEG GOAL : 5.75+"

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  4. 03-30-2020 #14
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    It'll probably slow down after a while, but my guess is you could ride this wave a while longer. Your BPEL goal is definitely achievable. If you stop PE you will lose some of your gains. I look at it as a few years to grow, and a lifetime to maintain.
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    Start: 5/28/2019 BPEL - 6.25, EG - 4.75
    Current: 3/5/2021 BPEL - 7.5, EG - 5.5
    Long Term Goal: BPEL - 8, EG - 6
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  5. 03-31-2020 #15
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    3/31 -- 10 min warmup, 20 min stretches, 300 jelqs, 3 rounds of uli, 5x10 Erect Squeezes, 10 min edging with climax (Med Day, 60mins)

    Mid-Shaft Girth is starting to tick up. I'll add girth stats/goals to my sig.
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    START : 2/6/2020
    BPEL : 5.875" - BaseEG : 5.25" - MSEG : 5.0"
    CURRENT : 2/10/2021
    BPEL : 7.875" - BaseEG : 5.625" - MSEG : 5.5"

    BPEL GOAL : 7.5+" - MSEG GOAL : 5.75+"

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  6. 04-01-2020 #16
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    This is motivating just because I started back in February and see that you're making progress. Im hoping to hit this month conitnuing a decent program and seeing some growth
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    12/6/19
    NBPEL: 6.25"
    BPEL: TBD
    MEG: 4.6"

    6/6/20
    NBPEL: 6.5-6.75" (fluctuates depending on EQ)
    BPEL: TBD
    MEG: 4.9"

    Short Term Goal: 7" NBPEL, 5.25" EG
    Long Term Goal: 8" NBPEL, 6" EG
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  7. 04-01-2020 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slitherinsnake View Post
    This is motivating just because I started back in February and see that you're making progress. Im hoping to hit this month conitnuing a decent program and seeing some growth
    Nice, Slither ... we're all in this together (to borrow a COVID-19 cliche). Seriously, it's good to have a community showing progress to keep you on track as an individual. Stick with it, bro!
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    START : 2/6/2020
    BPEL : 5.875" - BaseEG : 5.25" - MSEG : 5.0"
    CURRENT : 2/10/2021
    BPEL : 7.875" - BaseEG : 5.625" - MSEG : 5.5"

    BPEL GOAL : 7.5+" - MSEG GOAL : 5.75+"

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  8. 04-01-2020 #18
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    4/1 -- 10 min warmup, 20 min stretches, 600 jelqs (~35 min), 3 rounds of uli (~5 mins), 10 min edging with 5x10s Erect Squeezes interspersed and climax

    This was a high volume day. Tomorrow will be a rest day, and will mark the completion of 3 4-day micro-cycles in this "new" program I am kinda putting together on the fly based on previous fitness program periodization techniques. It remains to be seen if it will translate. My plan is to see this macro-cycle through to Friday, April 17, which will be 7 micro-cycles. At that point, I'll be at 10 weeks into my program. Not quite 90 days, so I might extend it if gains are still coming, I still have positive indicators, and I haven't blown the stress-strain curve based on BPSFL (see my next post in this thread for more details on that).

    NOTE : When I count jelqs I'm counting every rep, not both hands as one rep. I realized this might be confusing or misleading after reading more up on the exercises. Some places count both hands as a single rep. That's not how I'm rolling.
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    START : 2/6/2020
    BPEL : 5.875" - BaseEG : 5.25" - MSEG : 5.0"
    CURRENT : 2/10/2021
    BPEL : 7.875" - BaseEG : 5.625" - MSEG : 5.5"

    BPEL GOAL : 7.5+" - MSEG GOAL : 5.75+"

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  9. 04-01-2020 #19
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    Okay, let's do some program design theory. My style is to absorb as much as I can about a new subject to feel relatively informed, then try to talk it out with others who are also relatively informed (some more, some less than me). I think everyone benefits from this process, so please feel free to chime in if you have thoughts/expertise to offer.

    Let's set some baselines:


    • My main goal in the short term is length.
    • My LOT is in the downward position.
    • My BPSFL is 6" while my BPEL is 6.5" which would indicate my limitation is Tunica.
    • Further, my EQ is generally 9+/10.


    The baselines indicate a program emphasizing length is a good idea at this point, particularly one concentrating on upward/straight out stretches. According to How To: Routine Creation, this calls for roughly 30% girth work and 60% length work.

    Okay, so let's look at my routine from today:


    • 20 min stretches (all length, concentrating on up stretches at various angles)
    • 35 min jelqs (50/50 length and girth, with concentration on lower EL, upward angles, and a bit more tug to finish)
    • 5 min uli (50/50 length and girth)
    • 1 min erect squeezes (all girth and during edging)


    This roughly breaks down to 35% girth and 65% length. I am basically good with that breakdown. Plus, my Low and Med Volume days are more stilted toward length than this one is, so overall I expect a given micro-cycle to be right around 70/30 length/girth. If anyone disagrees with my calculations/understanding so far, please let me know.

    The next post is going to get deeper into the weeds. Come along if you like.
    Last edited by madyogi; 04-01-2020 at 11:52 AM.
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    START : 2/6/2020
    BPEL : 5.875" - BaseEG : 5.25" - MSEG : 5.0"
    CURRENT : 2/10/2021
    BPEL : 7.875" - BaseEG : 5.625" - MSEG : 5.5"

    BPEL GOAL : 7.5+" - MSEG GOAL : 5.75+"

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  10. 04-01-2020 #20
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    Okay, so deeper we go. I came across a great thread on another PE site (Thunder's) the other day, and I'm honestly still digesting it, but it's my kinda shit. I can't post the link here, because of forum rules, but the title is "The Long Game - Learning with Longer Stretch". If you put that title into a search engine, you should be able to find the thread.

    On this thread, the guy discusses at length (yes, I know, the puns are flowing) a BPSFL based routine design strategy that incorporates the stress-strain curve from physics and a fair bit of knowledge about fibrous tissue biomechanics. It's definitely worth a read, if you can stick with it. I'm still working through it myself.

    That said, I did start tracking my Pre-workout BPSFL vs Post-workout BPSFL (10 mins post workout) to see if any of it translates. My Pre-BPSFL today was 6" and Post-BPSFL was 6.25". If you read the thread linked above, you'll find an equation to get the amount of strain [(Post / Pre) - 1] * 100 = percent strain. So my strain for today was 4.167%.

    You have to read through the thread to get the details, but the basic idea is that you want to sit between 2-5% strain (newbs can be closer to 5% while veterans should be lower in the range). Too little and you're not doing enough. Too much and you're doing too much.

    Like I said, I still haven't digested all of it, but the guy is putting forth a model to use BPSFL to "signal" when it's time for a break. There are obviously other good reasons to take a break (bad indicators, stalled progress, etc), but this seems promising to me, as the other reasons mentioned are probably lagging indicators. I plan to explore this more as I move forward on my PE journey. Would love to hear thoughts from the community as they arise.
    Last edited by madyogi; 07-28-2020 at 11:06 AM.
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    START : 2/6/2020
    BPEL : 5.875" - BaseEG : 5.25" - MSEG : 5.0"
    CURRENT : 2/10/2021
    BPEL : 7.875" - BaseEG : 5.625" - MSEG : 5.5"

    BPEL GOAL : 7.5+" - MSEG GOAL : 5.75+"

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