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Yes bro, eventually you will only feel pleasure if/when you kegel, if you aren't already at that stage of desensitization.

I do notice it doesn't feel as good when I masturbate without kegeling as compared to when I do hold a kegel, I don't think I'm completely desensitized but I hope even if I am I can fix that problem!

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Keep training.

Thank you I will!

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Dec 5, 2020 - OFF DAY

Nothing much to note, had some morning wood, and my flaccid was nice and squishy and stretchy. Other than that I worked all day so I didn't really pay much attention to my PI's

Dec 6, 2020 - OFF DAY

I was supposed to have a PE Session today, but I wasn't feeling up to it and was tired from yesterday. It had nothing to do with my PI's I had great morning wood and the penis felt great. I just mentally was tired, so I didn't end up PE'ing today.

I really hope I don't do this too much, I'm trying to stay as consistent as possible!

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Dec 7, 2020

15 minute Warm Up
- JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
- 300 Dry Jelqs
- Edged 40 minutes. With release.
10 Minute Warm Down

NOTES:

Stretches and Jelqs felt good today.

I've recently started timing my stretches that include the Slow-Mo Pull part of the stretch, aka the lead up to holding the stretch. It takes about 20-30 seconds for me to slowly pull my stretch into my Desired Tension. So I figured I'll just time myself for 1 minute for these stretches.

30 seconds for the slow pull, and another 30 seconds while holding at the Desired Tension.

I'm glad I'm able to apply a little more pressure on my jelqs with no problems in PI's, and I can now really feel a milking sensation when I jelq because of it! Before when I did the REALLY LIGHT Jelqs I felt more soreness in my arms and hands from trying NOT to jelq too hard, it was funny because sometimes my arms would shake as I jelq'd lightly because I was trying so hard not to put too much pressure!

I had some good progress with my edging session today! Heeding Jay1983's warning, I approached today's session with more awareness of my Erect Kegeling while masturbating and actively stopping it when I noticed myself doing it. I slipped up in the beginning reaching PONR pretty quickly in the first few minutes, I stopped masturbating and released my kegel, gave myself 10 seconds to reset. Then proceeded to edge again with no held kegel. I definitely realized it took me a lot longer to reach the PONR each time, and only when I habitually held a kegel was I brought to a PONR faster.

So just like what I've read up on, holding a kegel not only tightens my Pelvic Floor more, desensitizes my penis when not kegeling, and also brings me to the PONR faster as I masturbate/edge.

My inner foreskin and ESPECIALLY the underside of my upper shaft to the underside of my glans (aka the frenulum and surrounding friends) is a very pleasurable area. I noticed as I am nearing the PONR, when I touch around the frenulum zone or when I pull my foreskin taught to full extension causing some tightness on the underside of my penis, I start to experience Involuntary Kegels (IK). I have to let go or I'd cum really quickly, I've been trying to trigger small IK's and then immediately attempt a Reverse Kegel to counteract the IK's. I'm thinking I can eventually rewire my brain or reflexes or something so it doesn't happen anymore. I don't know lol.

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Dec 8, 2020

15 minute Warm Up
- JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
- 300 Dry Jelqs
- Edged 1 Hour 30 minutes. With release.
No Warm Down

NOTES:

Not one of my better days stretching and jelqing. I felt like I just wanted to get through them today so they weren't as slow and deliberate as I usually perform them.

Edging was nice, went for 1 1/2 hours long with release. I tried to be actively conscious of not Erect Kegeling while masturbating/edging, but nonetheless old habits die hard! Though I definitely was more aware and making an effort to keep my Pelvic Floor more relaxed. I hope I can keep improving on this!

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Dec 9, 2020 - OFF DAY

Woke up with some nice morning wood, had a few more throughout the day just laying in bed. Though my dong is definitely feeling sore both shaft and dong, especially when erect.

There's no turtling. And my flaccid is nice and stretchy and soft, so other than soreness, my PI's looking good!

The soreness may be coming from my edging to release, I've experienced this soreness before when I've ejaculated multiple times a day or once a day consecutively for a few days.

We'll see how he feels tomorrow!

**EDIT: My dong started to feel less sore a couple hours later. I was feeling a little frisky and ended up pulling up some porn and Edging for about 30 minutes. NO RELEASE

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Dec 10, 2020

15 minute Warm Up
- JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
- 300 Dry Jelqs
- Edged 30 minutes. No release.
5 Minute Warm Down

NOTES:

The soreness I felt yesterday was gone! Even after spontaneously edging on my Off Day. So onward with the workout we go!

Stretches felt good. I haven't been pulling to Max Tension until the last few stretches and circle stretch sets. I usually stop once I feel any stretch of my ligs, though I'm unsure if I'm going too lightly. I do end up eventually getting to max tension on my last sets of circle stretches.

Jelqs were good! Each rep definitely wasn't as long as 10-15 seconds like I was doing last time, my arm gets too tired from super slow and long reps, it just doesn't seem sustainable and I don't think I'd adhere as well to the routine if I made the reps that long. Though once in a while I'd throw in a long rep like that to change it up, but every rep? No way Jose!

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Dec 11, 2020

15 minute Warm Up
- JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
- 300 Dry Jelqs
- Edged 1 Hour. No release.
5 minute Warm Down

NOTES:

Still doing lighter stretches, with Max Tension near the end of the JP90 Stretch routine.

My Jelqs today were more along the 3-5 seconds per rep. And I ended up jelqing with more pressure than I usually do. Will wait to see my PI's tomorrow, if it was too much.

My edging session came with a lot of experimentation at the edge of PONR. I tried a few Hard Kegels right at the PONR, and a few Reverse Kegels at the PONR also. As well as a few Start, Stops.

With the Hard Kegels some ended up with a little bit of cum bubbling out.

The Reverse Kegels most of the time would only hold my cum for a small period of time (and probably created more pressure) as I would realize I was going to pop, I would quickly Hard Kegel to stop most of it from coming out. I only managed to time it right once with a Reverse Kegel and stopped myself from hitting the PONR. I think the Reverse Kegel would work well if I wanted to REALLY shoot my load far as it creates a lot of pressure before it inevitably goes flying!

I managed a lot better with the Start, Stops. But a few times I stopped too late and would have to Hard Kegel to stop the rest of ejaculate from coming out.

I think I may have experienced a DO [Dry Orgasm](or at least a glimpse of it) a few times while Hard Kegeling, I get this flooding tingling sensation down from my head past my shoulders to my torso. Though this sensation only lasts a few seconds. It's like of like a Post-Pee Shiver I experience but a just a little more intense.

Anyways, today's edging session was interesting, I didn't actually reach a full climax but wasn't able to completely hold back my cum. I learned quite a bit about my body and how each Kegel affects me while masturbating and how it effects the PONR.

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Dec 12, 2020 - OFF DAY

To be honest I was busy all day and didn't really pay attention to my PI's, but I know when peeing I didn't notice any turtling or any other negative PI. Pretty sure I had some chub going on in the morning. I'd say my penis is still okay for PI's! Looks like the added Jelq pressure seems okay for now.

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Dec 13, 2020

15 minute Warm Up
- JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
- 300 Dry Jelqs
- *ADDED* 30 Dry V-Jelqs (Big time fail!!)
- Edged 1 Hour. With release.
15 minute Warm Down

NOTES:

I ended up going to Max Tension from the start of my Slow-Mo Stretches today. I just feel like I get a good stretch out of doing it this way. I don't ever feel any pain in my ligs, just a GOOD OL' STRETCH!

Dry Jelqs were again within 3-5 seconds, and most of them were done with the added pressure like I did previous session. With a few long reps (10-15 seconds) thrown in for fun.

So I decided to FINALLY add V-Jelqs from the JP90 Routine to my workout regimen. And boy did I struggle with this one!

First of all, I really don't like the mess of Wet Jelqing so I decided to attempt the V-Jelqs DRY. Maybe my fingers aren't that flexible but they already started cramping as I was trying to fit my Dong in between my middle and ring finger. Whenever I attempted to pull to one side or the other, my penis would slip from my V-grip and rotate to the left or to the right and I would end up Jelqing my Corpus Spongiosum as well.

From what I read it should be attempted standing because you can grip deeper into the pubic bone and get more penis when you're standing. But I have a problem with keeping my Erection up when standing. So I'd constantly have to sit back down and rub it off a bit before I can do my next rep. But that's probably an EQ problem I have to solve separately from the V-Jelq.

So after a grueling 10 reps that took forever because of my struggle in technique and EQ while standing. I decided f*** it I'm just going to do it sitting, as I keep better erections while sitting.

I definitely held my erections better, but I was still having more problems than when I do regular OK Jelqs while sitting. Maybe because I'm putting too much pressure on my CC's while V-Jelqing? And when I pull for the stretch I seem to lose some blood too and my Erection Level drops.

Then, I attempted to put the penis between my index and middle finger instead and it felt a lot better and I felt I could have a stronger grip using these two fingers. I still struggled with keeping the grip only on the CC's, since my penis just loves slipping and rotating so I start gripping the CS also.

Anyways, V-Jelqs don't seem to like me, and I don't think I like them either lol

Must do more research.

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Dec 14, 2020

25 minute Warm Up
- JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
- 300 Dry Jelqs
- *CHANGED to* 30 Dry ULTIMATE V's (by Rbi99)
- Edged 1 Hour. With release.
No Warm Down

NOTES:

I've reverted back to doing light stretches after reading so many different posts about essentially doing "Less is More". BundleUp's post on the subject of slow stretching at low tension but for longer durations was very well explained and actionable: https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...ml#post1648736

"So I pull gently until it stops, give it just a little more tension than the stopping point, and hold that tension for 1-5 minutes per stretch" Although I don't actually hold it for 1-5 minutes, I still keep the hold for ~30 seconds as per JP90's Routine.

I don't want to cause any thickening of my connective tissues on my penis due to activating the defensive mechanism from pulling too hard or intensely. So I'm gonna try it this way and see how it goes! Though I'm not holding the stretch for nearly as long as recommended. Maybe I'll make the duration longer?

Jelqs were great, still doing it with the added pressure and between 3-5 seconds each.

So due to yesterdays struggle with regular V-Jelqs I did some more research and came across rbi99's Ultimate V Jelq https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...mate-v-uv.html

He said it was possible for beginners to use the UV's as long as they were one with less reps and less intensity.

I definitely like them better than regular V's. But I had trouble doing them at less intensity, from what I've gathered on V-Jelqs in general, they're supposed to target CC's and really expand the glans when you jelq. But I'd only really get a nice expansion if I squeezed my V's hard with higher intensity in the UV's.

I also still experienced twisting of the penis as I moved up the shaft and would end up jelqing the CS as well.

Then I came across Aston Martini's post on the same thread who potentially solved the twisting problem: https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...tml#post677932

So I attempted using my thumb and index finger as the "V" instead and I definitely had more finger strength between the 2 than using any of my other fingers. And it also freed up my other hand because I didn't have to use it to apply pressure on the fingers to jelq. I felt like I had more control over the twisting doing it this way, but I still had a few slips in rotation here and there.

I still need practice, and am still not quite sure what the correct Erection Level and intensity a beginner like me should be using. Because with less intensity I don't feel the blood move up as well and the glans don't engorge.

I'm still going to give UV's a shot as they seem more promising than regular V's. If I still don't like them after a week or two I might just switch to adding more reps to my Regular OK Dry Jelqs.

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Dec 15, 2020 - OFF DAY

- Morning Wood
- Stretchy, elastic flaccid

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Dec 16, 2020

15 minute Warm Up
- JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
- 300 Dry Jelqs
- 30 Dry ULTIMATE V's (by Rbi99)
- Edged 50 Minutes. With release.
5 Minute Warm Down

NOTES:

I'm still continuing on with the lighter tension stretches. Pulling slowly and gently until it stops, then add a little more tension past the stopping point. Hold that tension for 30 seconds.

My Dry Jelqs are still mostly 3-5 seconds. This time I've mixed up some added pressure jelqs, with some lighter jelqs, medium jelqs, and some long rep time jelqs (10 seconds).

I did my 30 Ultimate V's this time solely using my thumb and index finger. It's easier to use and frees up my other hand. I'm getting used to doing UV's this way! I still lose most of my erection after each rep, so I have to get it up again after each rep, which takes up a lot of my time.

Other than that, my only other issue is I find the UV ineffective unless I'm completely squeezing both sides of the CC's. Meaning the intensity I'm applying seems pretty strong, but if I ease up a little, the jelq seems and feels like I'm no longer moving blood up the shaft. The glans don't engorge and it feels like I'm doing nothing. I only feel blood moving up the shaft and the glans engorging when I'm pinching with higher intensity for my UV's.

So I'm thinking if I stick to a low amount of reps (just the 30 reps of UV's) compared to the recommended 180 Regular V-Jelqs, that the higher intensity UV's would be okay.

I'll see how my PI's look tomorrow.

One other observation worthy of noting was as I got to around the 15th rep of UV and onward, I noticed as I finished the rep with the stretch toward my stomach, I noticed my penis was closer than ever to my belly button. I WAS applying a MORE INTENSE stretch for a few seconds after each UV rep.

So I got up and measured the stretched length on my wooden ruler, and it nearly measured just shy of 6.5"! But when I tried again 30 seconds later stretching out my penis, the stretched length went back to the usual 6.25.

I tried one more UV rep and then measured the stretch again, and it was 6.5" again!.

After I finished my workout and warmed down and tried measuring my BPFSL again and this time got 6.3125"

It's probably just a temporary after workout gain, but what's worth noting is that I've actually tried measuring my BPFSL a few times before and after a PE Workout, and every time there would be no change in BPFSL.

This is the first time I've measured any notable difference in my before and afters for BPFSL. Maybe the UV's are a good addition? We'll see tomorrow on how my PI's are doing!

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Dec 17, 2020

15 minute Warm Up
- JP90 stretches (done Slow-Mo Style) [30 sec to Desired Tension + 30 sec Hold = Total 1 Minute timed]
- 300 Dry Jelqs
- 30 Dry ULTIMATE V's (by Rbi99)
- Edged 40 Minutes. With release.
No Warm Down

NOTES:

Stretches felt great today!

Dry Jelqs were mixed up with higher and lesser intensities of pressure, mostly between 3-5 seconds. With a few longer reps added in here and there.

The Ultimate-V's are intense, and I still worry I may still be applying too much pressure when doing them. They are also time intensive, as after every UV Jelq I lose most of my erection and have to get it up to 40%-60% again. I did however try to pull with less strength compared to yesterday as I wasn't sure if I was going to hard. I didn't feel any pain when pulling harder yesterday but I want to stick to lighter stretches for now.

I might go back to just Dry Jelqs and just raise the amount of reps I'm doing instead of the UV's. Not sure yet. I actually really like how engorged I make my glans and the pressure I'm using, there's no pain. I just worry I'm adding too much intensity too soon, and again it's soooo time intensive for just 30 reps. It takes me about 30+ minutes to do them. The reps are long in the jelqing motion, but I also take my time with a slow stretch in the up, up left, and up right directions.

Will do some more research tomorrow on my off day!