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  1. 11-24-2020 #11
    Kickstand42
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    Yesterday

    Warm up
    Phallosan 1 hr - low green
    Warm down 1
    Manual stretches
    120 wet jelqs (1 rep per hand)
    Warm down 2

    Today

    Warm up
    1:15 phallosan low green
    Warm up 2
    45 mins low green
    Warm down
    Total: 2 hrs Phallosan

    Total Phallosan time since start: 6 hrs 10 mins in low green
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  2. 11-25-2020 #12
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    Learned about TGC theory yesterday.

    According to that my tunica is the limiting factor atm based on my BPSFL and EQ, but I’m already doing mostly stretch work so nothing to change atm

    I did decide that increasing jelqs by 20 every week like I have been while increasing my phallosan time is probably not the best move.

    So I’m reducing the jelqs down to 80 until I reach a stable phallosan time.

    I also have been doing phallosan mostly after my workouts so it’s pre exhausted but I want to try out doing it before. I think the argument could go either way but the idea of doing jelqs with everything stretched/loosened seems to make the most sense to me atm.

    Enough dear diary stuff

    Today’s workout:
    Warm up
    1.5 hrs phallosan low green
    Warm up 2
    5 directions stretch x 30s x 2
    80 wet jelqs 40-60%
    Warm down
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  3. 11-26-2020 #13
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    I hope everyone had a happy Thanksgiving during this wild year.

    I hooked up the Phallosan today for 40 mins after warming up, and followed it with a cooldown

    it appears I have some skin darkening this evening all over the shaft. I don’t have a problem with the appearance, and have read mixed things about it being “normal” with PE vs. a sign to stop.

    Nothing is sore, it doesn’t feel like bruising, and I haven’t noticed any drop in EQ this week and have been waking with morning wood every morning. If anyone has any input on it I’m all ears.

    In the meantime I alternated warm/cold for 20 mins each two times through the whole process (80 mins total) this evening, and I’ll be taking the rest of the week off of any workouts so that I can monitor it. Ill continue to warm/cold recoveries, gentle massages, and kegels but that it.

    Last but not least - possible causes:

    1) number of jelqs was too high (I know I stayed between 40-70% however)

    - confirm by reducing jelqs by 1/2 on next weeks workouts (assuming darkening fades over the weekend)

    2) Phallosan tension was too high
    - I’ve been going slightly into the green but can stay closer to the edge.

    2.1) Phallosan time under stretch has been too long.
    - stay under 1.5hrs with 5-10 min breaks every 30 mins to verify and rewarm.

    3) Phallosan sleeve/setup
    - ide like to confirm or disprove 1/2/2.1 before I change this but maybe I need to try the large sleeve.

    4) I’m predisposed to darkening easily.
    - nothing I can really do about this except continue to try to recover well, continue to see if other PIs show up, and if gains/losses occur
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  4. 11-27-2020 #14
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    Read up on it. Discovered firegoat rolls and also picked up some arnica + vitamin k

    PIs are still good this morning. Discoloration appears to have faded a bit.

    Still taking the rest of the day/weekend off but I feel a bit more prepared to prevent it in the future
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  5. 11-29-2020 #15
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    Got the arnica +k lotion yesterday. Discoloration appears to have completely gone away over these past few days.

    All I’ve been doing is kegal work

    Also it’s measurement day.

    Format:
    starting measurements / prev weeks / current

    BPSFL: 4.5 / 5 / 5.03
    (I think there was some measurement error on the starting measurement)

    FMSG: 4 / 3.85 / 4

    BPEL: 6.75 / 6.71 / 6.83 - lowest
    (did take two 6.88s but I want to wait until next week to confirm)

    MSEG: 4.9 / 4.9 / 4.9

    Thoughts:
    Aside from what I’m assuming is measurement error on the BPFSL I think the two interesting measurements are the FSMG and BPEL being lower then my starting last week, and then after a few days off my FSMG returned to starting as well as what appears to be growth in BPEL all while MSEG stayed consistent.

    I trust my measuring >.1 a high degree and anything over .2 is pretty damn certain so the standout is the MSFG going down .15 last week.

    This in combination with the discoloration appears to be good evidence that I was overdoing it and my inclination to reduce the number of wet jelqs and do a lower intensity phallosan should get me closer to where I need to be training atm.

    I’m not claiming gains in BPEL just yet. I think at least 3 weeks of consistently higher measurements are needed for that.

    Really happy with this process I have and looking forward to getting back to training again tomorrow.
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  6. 11-29-2020 #16
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    Typos in thoughts above - FSMG = MSFG (mid shaft flaccid girth)
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  7. 11-30-2020 #17
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    Today

    Warm up
    30 mins Phallosan
    10 minute break check for discoloration
    40 mins
    10 minute break “”
    1 hr
    Total time = 2:10
    No discoloration noted after all Phallosan usage. Intensity was at the very edge of green (lowest possible green)

    Total overall Phallosan hrs = 10:30 (hrs:mins)

    Warm up 2 with firegoat rolls
    30s stretches each direction x 2
    50 wet jelqs
    Edging and 30 kegels (no completion)
    Warm down with firegoat rolls
    Topical arnica applied

    Noticed the usual discoloration after jelqing. Which I’m now almost certain is what’s causing it. I’ll see if 50 produces discoloration that last longer than a day but I suspect I’m prone to it at this point. The firegoat rolls make a huge difference almost immediately.

    Otherwise everything seems very healthy and normal.
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  8. 12-01-2020 #18
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    Today - no discoloration, good PIs

    3 x 1hr Phallosan w/ 20-30 mins in between hrs
    Warm up/warm down for each hr

    Heavily considering ramping up Phallosan usage and reducing the manual to a bare minimum routine MWF
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  9. 12-02-2020 #19
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    Today:

    I’m going to not write all the times I rewarm anymore out of laziness. I don’t know if it’s even necessary to do it as much as I do but it feels right. In any case everything has a 5-15 minute warm up/warm down depending on what I’m doing after.

    Log for today:

    45 mins Phallosan low green x 2

    2 x 20s stretches 5 directions
    55 wet jelqs (40-60%)
    Edge up to 100% and kegel- 30 kegels

    30 mins Phallosan low green x 2

    Total phallosan time today: 2:30
    Total Phallosan time overall: 16:00
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  10. 12-03-2020 #20
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    Felt good this morning

    Did 1:40 in low green
    Took a break
    Then another 1:00

    Total time today: 2:40
    Total time overall: 18:40

    Was shooting for 3:30 today but the last hr felt like plenty for today.
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