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  1. 01-08-2021 #61
    Kickstand42
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    Phallosan 1.5 hrs low green
    bpsfl before = 5.51!
    After = 5.68!
    Strain = 3.2%

    Slight decrease in strain from yesterday but could just be variation.

    Increase in tension = increase in strain. Makes sense to me

    Increase in duration = longer time at strain length

    50 wet jelqs (40@ 40-60% 2-3s, 10 @ 40-60% 3-5s)

    3 rounds:

    - 5 mins at 1-3hg (slow increase to 3 1st minute, last minute slow decrease to 0)
    - Massage
    - 25 wet jelqs (mostly light and and 30-50%)
    - Edge for a few mins.

    Edge for 15 mins

    BPEL after = 7.08”
    MSEG after = 4.96”
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  2. 01-09-2021 #62
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    Slept well last night finally.

    Morning wood was non existent so I think I overdid it yesterday. It’s so hard to tell where that line is. I had a big soft flaccid the rest of the day and figured I nailed it.

    Oh well. I was planning on taking the weekend off anyways, except for kegels today.

    Other than that I am taking Tongkat Ali 300mg every morning for giggles. Been taking it for 3 days and haven’t noticed any real differences yet. That’s all for today folks
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  3. 01-10-2021 #63
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    Measurement day:

    BPSFL - varied a bit 5.3125-5.38
    Measured MSFG after BPSFL = 4.02”

    MSEG
    125mm (4.92) at 90-95%
    126mm (4.96) near 100%
    Still catching 127 every now and then but I’m now very confident that I have gained near .05” girth since the beginning.

    BPEL 7.04”-7.08”!!

    NBPEL = 6.45-6.48

    I was a bit worried that the little changes I made to the program were going to yield no results, and I wouldn’t know for a few weeks.

    But it looks like the current strategy is working just as well as the old one.

    This coming week is going to be very similar but keeping the jelqs below 75 on pump days since my last workout I did have some negative PIs after, I’ll shoot for a little more time on the Phallosan after manual stretches.

    One thing I failed to capture last week that I’m going to attempt this week is girth strain in the pump.

    I doubt I’ll be able to get anything to a high level of accuracy, but here are my concerns:

    If girth is unchanged in the tube then the volumetric strain equation simplifies down to

    (Length after)/(Length before) - 1

    To save on typing I’m going to write that as

    Lf/Li - 1 from here on out

    The problem I’m seeing is this
    Assume low pressure and no length strain
    - Lf=Li

    The volumetric strain then becomes

    Df^2 / Di^2 - 1

    So the square (^2) messes it up a bit and causes you to escape the plastic range much faster.

    Just to prove that lets say I’m shooting for a 4% strain

    Lf/Li - 1 = .04

    Li = BPSFL = 5.38”

    Lf/5.38 = 1.04

    Lf = 5.60”

    Cool that gives me a ballpark but if I wanted to do the same thing for girth. And it’s measurable (approx .2” difference)

    Df^2 / Di^2 = 1.04

    Df = sqrt(.04*Di^2)

    Di = MSEG/pi = 4.96/3.141.. = 1.58
    Di^2 = 2.49

    Df = sqrt(1.04*2.49) = 1.61”
    MSEG after = 1.61 * pi = 5.05”

    Df is the problem - it’s only .03” bigger than my initial diameter. That’s pretty hard to measure. Especially in a tube (okay impossible)

    You could get the Circumference after leaving the tube and hope the tissue is still expanded right after (probably you’re best bet)

    But you still don’t know how far you pushed it in the tube.

    This is where I see manuals and clamping having a clear advantage because you could theoretically get those measurements right after or during and be a bit more confident

    In any case the main reason I want to measure is to see if there is a noticeable expansion. If I can tell then I’m not convinced it’s not just toughening up tissue.

    There’s also some problems with this whole thought process.

    One huge wrench is bundled stretches. Theyre performed placcid therefore way below the max girth. I’m sure there’s some fancy physics and torsion that could be used but that’s out of my league.

    The second wrench is whether or not volumetric strain of 2-5% is the correct range. Everything I’ve seen has been for one direction. It makes sense to me that the entire penis is being expanded so you have to look at the volume but I’m not 100%.
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  4. 01-11-2021 #64
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    Odd workout today, normally I loosen up during the first few stretches but I just kinda felt tight today.

    18 mins manual stretches
    30s each direction some directions more than others. I was too focused on the sensations to keep track. Mostly straight forward and up though


    1.5 hrs Phallosan

    50 wet jelqs

    3 rounds
    3 mins 1-2 hg
    15 wet jelqs

    Edge for 20 mins and kegels

    Interesting discovery. I checked my girth at the beginning of edging and it was 125mm consistently. Odd. I kept going and after 5-8 mins it was still 125

    So I was like oh well must be a post workout thing. So I started doing kegel work to finish.

    After a few kegel holds I noticed a difference visually. Checked and it was 127 and floated up sometimes to 128. And stated that way so I kept going for another 15 minutes hoping to lock in that in.

    I’ve been doing kegels throughout the day when I remember but now I’m thinking pump/girth work days during edging is a good spot for them.

    Solid day.
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  5. 01-12-2021 #65
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    Light day

    Post warm up bpsfl = 5.38”
    45 mins Phallosan
    - increase tension slightly every 15-20 mins
    Post workout bpsfl = 5.58”
    Strain = 3.9%

    50 wet jelqs
    Edge 15 mins
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  6. 01-14-2021 #66
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    Yesterday off

    Today

    Manual stretches 20 mins
    Phallosan 1.5 hrs low green

    Separated by a few hrs

    45 wet jelqs 5 arm shoot jelqs

    3 mins 3 hg
    15 wet jelqs
    4 mins 2 hg
    15 wet jelqs
    4 mins 3 hg
    15 wet jelqs

    Edge 15 mins with kegels and 10 wet jelqs
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  7. 01-15-2021 #67
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    1 hr 45 mins Phallosan
    First hr - increase tension @20, 50 mins
    45 mins - increase tension @30

    Strain both times was 4.8%

    70 wet jelqs
    Last 10 were at 30% and 2-3s the rest were slow and in between 40-60%

    Tomorrow I’ll do manual stretches for 10-15, Phallosan for 30mins and pump,edge
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  8. 01-16-2021 #68
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    Last workout of the week.

    Manual stretches 16 mins, mostly straight, up, right and left.

    Phallosan 20 mins

    2 sets
    Pump 2-3hg 4-5 mins (3-4 at max then taper down the last min)
    10 wet jelqs

    Edge for 5 mins and finished

    NBPEL during edging = 6.58”
    BPEL during edging = 7.11”
    MSEG during edging = ~126.5-127mm ~ 5”

    Been seeing the MSEG hit 127 far more frequently since Thursday, and my BPEL has been hitting 7.11” more too.

    Taking tomorrow off, I’ll measure Monday if I remember.

    Cheers
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  9. 01-17-2021 #69
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    Realized tomorrow is going to be busy and I’m going to try and get a session in early, won’t have time to measure so I measured today.

    Didn’t get flaccid measurements, but I take them enough throughout the week

    BPEL = 7.11” note I did hit 7.14” a few times, but it wasn’t as consistent at 7.11”

    MSEG = 4.98”, it’s sooo close to 5.00 and the tape falls naturally there but if I pull the tape very taught it goes to 126.5 mm (ish)

    BEG = 135mm (5.31”)
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  10. 01-18-2021 #70
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    Today got away from me

    Did 15 mins manual stretches
    35 mins Phallosan
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