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  • ClockWatcher's Progress log and journal

    Well in the spirit of the site, and in particular this forum and to go with Hairtriggers recommendations I thought I'd start a progress log to monitor my gains.

    To begin, my newbie workout.

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    2 days on - 1 day off
    • 5 - mins hot sock
    • 30 second stretches each way. Holding below the glans aiming for tension to be felt at the base. Not too strong though.(out, up, down, left, right)
    • 10 secs - 30 secs of massage to get blood back in (slapping against thigh etc).
    • 10 minutes of medium intensity 3 - 5 secong jelqs (40-60% erect)
    • warm down with hot sock / shower

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    My current stats (16/07/08) - Day 1
    • BPEL : 6.25
    • EG : 4.5

    • FL : 4
    • FG : 3.5

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    I plan to continue this routine for the next 3 months, measuring every month, mid month.

    Short Term goal - 15/10/08
    • BPEL : 6.75
    • EG : 4.75

    • FL : 4.5
    • FG : 3.75


    Long Term goal
    • BPEL : 8
    • EG : 6

    • FL : 6
    • FG : 4.5

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    I'm a good listener with broad shoulders. If at any time anyone notices anything wrong with my "workouts" or has some advice that could help me out I'm all ears.

    I'm sure the concepts here are very similar to bodybuilding - "Everything works, Everything works for a while".

    Also anyone know where i can get that book being advertised here in England for a resasonable price. Amazon want £33 (300% markup). Cheers
    clockwatcher
    Member
    Last edited by clockwatcher; 07-18-2008, 05:03 AM.

  • #2
    Welcome to the PE Gym and good luck on your endeavors!

    P.S. Start off very light and you will see the most success! Don't let yourself get impatient and up the intensity too soon, jipping yourself out of future gains.
    eow.
    Member of the Month April 2013
    Last edited by eow.; 07-18-2008, 08:55 AM.
    Collection of scientific articles and books related to PE: pe_sources.zip

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    • #3
      ok. So after first few days (with one break day in between) Here are my observations.
      • It's hard to judge how firmly to be stretching. Only way i can keep it light in my head is to keep telling myslef to ease off.

      • Jelqing is actually quite relaxing, only thing is i keep losing wood and having to wack on some porn every now and then to get some blood back.
      • Constantly baby oiling my knob is making it very soft and smooth, also smells good too.
      • The actual jelq is awkward, if i start at the base , really low i often pull up the top of my schmotum, which is uncomfortable. To counter this i take the other hand and pull the schrotum taught so that it's not in the way.
      • Sex isn't a big issue, even with all this activity.

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      • #4
        Don't worry about losing erection level while jelqing. If you have to jerk off to get back up to 60% that is OK. When your penis is more conditined it will likely stay at 60% on its own while doing PE.

        You may want to put a warm to hot wash cloth on your scrotum to relax it while doing PE. If this still hurts continue doing it the way you are doing it.


        For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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        • #5
          cheers for the advice kingpole.

          IT's not so much that it hurts my sack, more of an annoyance because as i move the pressure up the shaft, if my sack is caught it rolls up with it, inevitably meaning i have to reduce pressure underneath to avoid chatching and stretching it further.

          As i said, pulling it taught seems to ensure that doesn't happen, and as a result means i concentrate more on the quality of the jelq, inevitably making it a lighter, slower action.

          One thing, I've been reading about LOT, i used the examples over at thunders but i seem to be able to tug no matter where my willy is pointing. Not by great amounts but there is still some tugback. Does this mean i'm gonna find gains pretty much impossible?

          Also i can't find any post of the correlations between BPSFL and how this can chow potential. I read somewhere from soemones post that there is some indicator and correlation between this measurement and what you can gain. Would anybody be kind enough to point me in the direction of a relavant topic/article for this please?

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          • #6
            When I jelq, as I approach the end of the stroke, with the left hand. With the right hand I will go ahead and start a light grip about 1" above the base. I will then pull the skin down towards the base as far as I can. Before completing the grip I will judge the amount of erection level that I have, if it is good I will go ahead and complete the grip, if not I will do a quick kegel to add more to my erection level. Then as I start movement with my right hand I will slowly release the left hand. I also use the overhand OK grip. This works well for me but as KP said, it will get easier with time.

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            • #7
              quick update.

              I've been keen to try and build my own pwer jelq device. i imagine they're a lot more comfortable. not for now but for the end of my n00b routine.

              Well anyway as most of you know it's hard to get canning tongs in the uk right? wrong.

              check out : Canning Set - Lakeland, the home of creative kitchenware

              Reasonable price and perfect for your power jelq setup.

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              • #8
                well it seems the issue with my sack is all gone, plenty of oil seems to have sorted that out.

                I've just completed my second 2 day set on my routine and all went fine.

                Not having so much trouble keeping it up now, i find just having a little pron on in the bg with low/no sound does the job. I just take a glance over every so often and do a few kegels to get back up.

                I still worry about squeezing too hard. I don't want to waste 3 months by now doing enough so am inclined to put enough pressure on to see some growth as a trap the blood. I wish somebody would come up with a half-decent analogy to measure the pressure required.

                I do feel fuller walking around already. I make sure that i stick to only doing my set pe exercise in the morning but like to do 10-15 JAI stretches every time i use the loo or have my cock out. I think that helps keep me focused even on my off day.

                I'm still very sceptical. I'm just the kind of hard gainer / unlucky sob that won't see anything from all of this. God love me to be unhappy about certain things and I'm sure cock size is one of them. Sure i really hope by the end of my 3 months i have some gains, even 1/2 inch length and some in girth would be enough to motivate me to continue, but y9ou know what? I very much doubt it. I'll continue on regardless though.

                Another thing is people keep using numbers for EQ 9.5 10.5 etc etc. Where is the reference for what this actually means? i thought it was a score out of ten but when people say 10.5, 12.5 etc it kind of confuses me. How do I know how I scrore?

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                • #9
                  well today is another rest day.

                  Not too much to report though, I've been doing my exercises. Only thing different is i'm going for some v-jelqs as recommended to me. It took me a while to understand the instruction but now i get it.

                  you cup your hand over the dick, so in essence like a claw around each side and pull up. Cool stuff, gives me a good feeling.

                  I obviosuly havent measured yet (as there is probably nothing to measure) but i feel like my mans getting healthier and plumper. Who knows eh?


                  In my quest of research i found all the stuff about the jelq device, and how to make you own. The proper device does look good but i was unsure if i wanted to spend all that on canning tongs.

                  Instead i've opted for making my own. Got some tongs in the UK in a pack from lakeland, and For tubing i found this unique stuff.

                  Mobility Red Foam Tubing for easier gripping 9.5mm hole on eBay, also Other Mobility Equipment, Mobility Equipment, Mobility, Disability Medical, Health Beauty (end time 07-Aug-08 22:11:31 BST)

                  This stuff is £18 elsewhere on the net, closed cell and everything. It's a little narrower than the insulation foam but shouldnt require the tape to go over the rollers. Once the foam arrives I'll let you know how it goes (although i won't be using for at least 3 months.)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by clockwatcher View Post
                    well it seems the issue with my sack is all gone, plenty of oil seems to have sorted that out.

                    I've just completed my second 2 day set on my routine and all went fine.

                    Not having so much trouble keeping it up now, i find just having a little pron on in the bg with low/no sound does the job. I just take a glance over every so often and do a few kegels to get back up.

                    I still worry about squeezing too hard. I don't want to waste 3 months by now doing enough so am inclined to put enough pressure on to see some growth as a trap the blood. I wish somebody would come up with a half-decent analogy to measure the pressure required.

                    I do feel fuller walking around already. I make sure that i stick to only doing my set pe exercise in the morning but like to do 10-15 JAI stretches every time i use the loo or have my cock out. I think that helps keep me focused even on my off day.

                    I'm still very sceptical. I'm just the kind of hard gainer / unlucky sob that won't see anything from all of this. God love me to be unhappy about certain things and I'm sure cock size is one of them. Sure i really hope by the end of my 3 months i have some gains, even 1/2 inch length and some in girth would be enough to motivate me to continue, but y9ou know what? I very much doubt it. I'll continue on regardless though.

                    Another thing is people keep using numbers for EQ 9.5 10.5 etc etc. Where is the reference for what this actually means? i thought it was a score out of ten but when people say 10.5, 12.5 etc it kind of confuses me. How do I know how I scrore?
                    God does not want you to be unhappy about anything on your body. What makes you unhappy about yourself drives a wedge between you and God. This is not a good thing! Become happy with what you have and your body (dick) will follow suit.


                    For I will restore health unto thee and I will heal thee of thine wounds, saith the Lord Jeremiah 30:17

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                    • #11
                      Just to let you guys in the u.k know.

                      I ordered Remek's book from the US Amazon last week as it was the only place i could find it at a reasonable price.

                      It arrived today (about a week later) and was actually shipped from Germany.

                      Very reasonable and quick overall given was ordered from US. Now let's hope it's as good as is made out on here

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                      • #12
                        Well it's been a little while since I've been here so the best thing to do is create a comeback post and let you guys know what I'm doing at present and what my stats are.

                        I haven't had the most amazing of gains, but have honest good gains all the same and still have the tenacity to want more improvement (am now in the 1 1/2 year club). Over that time I've tried a few things but below is what I'm currently doing and what works for me.

                        I've been regular over at Betterman but unfortunately (due to it portraying itself as a pay site yet refusing to admit that it is one - Sorry JP but it's true, having a little secret club for payers and mods is not cool) it is now very inactive so looks like I've be coming back over here to talk PE.

                        Here's my current workout:

                        Step 1. Warm up

                        I warm up for 10 mins with a rice sock. I use the microwave for 38 seconds exactly. (trial and error)

                        Step 2. Stretching

                        Stretch left BTC, down BTC, right BTB
                        left down, down down, right down
                        left, out, right
                        left up, up up, right up (if that makes sense).

                        I do 1 min of each of those and then about a minute of cranks.

                        I'm uncut and so stretching is difficult.

                        I do not pull my skin back. Instead I grip my entire unit but have the tightest part of the grip under my glans using my index finger. I really do squeeze hard to ensure when I'm pulling I'm not just stretching skin but the unit inside as well. I think the key here is while warming up and before stretching I tend to get my "jelq porn" ready on my second screen. This usually means a bit of arousal and so i get plump and then let it subside. This gives me a little residual EQ to grip with.

                        I know some people recommend to pull skin back, but that advice is usually given by circumcised guys. Anybody who's not knows that that is pretty much impossible. However, and this is the key here, I'm finding it's only after about 2-3 weeks of consistent stretching that PI's are positive and stretching starts to feel like its working. I put this down to the skin itself being to elastic and tough to allow the IP to stretch untill you've given it a good daily stretch. To assist with this a couple of minutes of stretching every morning in the shower is helping.

                        Step 3. Wet Jelqing

                        After around 20 minutes of stretching I do 20 minutes of Jelqing, using baby oil. I have 2 monitors on my PC and so usually have porn on one and a tv show (flashforward, heroes, 24, south park, peep show etc.) on the other. I watch the tv show but glance over and watch the porn just enough to get me to about 60-70 % eq for jelqing. I really try and kegal before each jelq to attempt to "catch" the blood (see previous posts). I really don't think the jelqs are at optimum throughout, it usually takes 10 minutes to get up to a really good engorgement but having porn there when you need it helps keep things flowing without having to stop or only watch that (which leads to higher eq).

                        Step 4. Warm down

                        I wash my unit down etc and use the same rice sock. I put into the microwave for 32 seconds this time and put in my boxer wrapped around my unit. I literally then go about my daily, playing guitar, computer etc. I leave the sock there until it's cold, or until it's socially unacceptable (i.e. going out or missus comes home) average of about 30 minutes. Gives a really good warm down.

                        Progress:

                        11/08 - BPEL 6 3/16 EG - 4.

                        12/09 - BPEL 6 14/16 EG - 4 5/8

                        That's me then, will more regularly come to here from now on. My routine is going to be 5 on 2 off as a New Years resolution but I unfortunately am back to stealth PE so sometimes I just can't get it done.
                        clockwatcher
                        Member
                        Last edited by clockwatcher; 01-04-2010, 03:32 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Well last night only had 40 mins available to me so opted for a good warm up, a thorough 20 mins of jelqing and a good 10 min warm down.

                          Didn't do any stretching but just from the jelqing the engorgement was good.

                          Also did a quick measure and found that am now at 6 14/16 at a real 9-10 EQ so nearing that desired 7" goal.

                          Once I've got the 7" secured i will focus on girth purely i think and look at trying to get up around the 5.5" mark, this should have a dramatic effect on the look of me unit.

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                          • #14
                            Another warm up / jelq / warm down routine last night.

                            A full 20 mins of great quality jelqing and afterwards hang was great, long and plump.

                            Am interested to see if jelqing alone will give me that coveted girth i require. Being so close to 7" now i'm tempted to just carry on stretching until i get there, but the stretching im sure is effecting any potential girth increases so hopefully that last 1/8 will come from jelqing alone.

                            Certainly is nice to have workout down to 40 minutes int total, and only 20 of them actually working out.

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                            • #15
                              Good to see you still hard at it CL.

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