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    Hello.
    There is such a thing as too big. Most here know that. or if they dont, they should.

    I am going to be stopping my length gains at 7. Because frankly, it would be rather horrible to fall in love, only to discover my length was hitting the back of her cervix, even when completely aroused, and causing her pain.
    Further, I have heard that legenthy guys have to take doggy style out of their arsenal. And I just could not do that as I can be a kinda dominate/aggressive lover who rather enjoys doggy/ dragon style.

    If I find "the one" who has a deep or angled cervex, I can always increase length later if she would enjoy that.
    But for now, I think 7 is enough to be seen as above average by a visual test, without running the risk of being too long for most (if properly aroused)
    Does this sound about right?




    So. My next question is about girth. How much is too much? It is pretty well known that females perfer girth to length, but there has to be a line somewhere, right?

    However, is that line more flexible then length? It seems to me that, while a woman may not be able to adjust her vaginal depth, She could more easily comfortable adjust and accommodate someone of the more girthy persuasion, given time. Giving that feeling of being full.


    You see. I am currently around 5.4 in length. And girth wise, around the thickest part (the middle for some reason), I am about the same.
    I like the way my penis is proportioned, and would like to keep it that way for the most part.

    However, would 7*7 be just too much girth wise?
    Keep in mind, that the base is kinda thin, and just bulges out 8in the middle.... not sure if this would even out in clamping or not.



    What do you think would be just too much girth?
    Keep in mind, that this is not in relation to a one night stand. Assume that this is a life partner, who you could adjust to somewhat.





    (PS: No need to tell me that penis size doesnt matter as much as I might think and or that my dimensions are fine as is. I preemptively thank you for the confidence booster. But im not insecure or an egomaniac. Just a guy looking for some honest feedback. And lets be honest, we are all on this forum for a reason.. )
    zenjamin
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    Last edited by zenjamin; 11-28-2010, 11:22 AM.

  • #2
    Anything over 5.5 is just excess. Most women can comfortably accept 6". Once you hit 6.5", you start running into a few women who will take a while to adjust. I believe 7" is definitely the max any person would ever want to be if they really don't want to limit the amount of women they can choose from.
    itguy123
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    Last edited by itguy123; 11-21-2010, 01:05 PM.

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    • #3
      Anything above 6.4" in my opinion

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      • #4
        I agree. Around 5" is definitely in the average range and you are now slightly above average. 6" would be considered large. Any woman the can comfortably handle 7" or more could also handle fisting since that is basically the size of our wrists. So use that as a measure. Can they handle? Given enough time and lube; probably. If you are after a long term relationship, do the both of you really need that? Maybe you do as you said you was more dominate/aggressive. It's okay. But if you tried to go 7x7, I think you are going to limit yourself to "larger" yet a smaller number of women.
        9/13/10 332#(BPFL1.75xFG3.25),(BPEL3.75xEG4.25)

        6/25/13 303#(BPFL4xFG3.63),NBPLF3.25,(BPEL6xBEG4.88/MEG4.88/HEG4.5),NBPEL5.38

        Goal 210#(BPFL4xFG4),NBPLF3.5,(BPEL6.5xMEG5),NBPEL6

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        • #5
          Today in the morning during and edge session measured and got a 5.9x5.9 dick at EQ9 it was unusually fat, especially at the mid point, but nothing looked out of the ordinary. Of course this will probably not happen again, because later that day i measured it and it got back to 4.9 in girth. Well it made my day

          The only thing i know is that my bladder was full but i was to lazy to get out of bed and started edging anyway
          premE FAQ

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          • #6
            Before I was married I had a maximum girth of about 5.75" and a head girth of around 5.25". Most women had no trouble with that vaginally, but a couple did complain of soreness after intercourse which sometimes limited how often I got laid. You can decide for yourself if you would consider that a problem.

            Even with a head girth of "only" 5.25" and a shaft girth of around 5.5", I had more than a few girls complain of jaw fatigue when going down on me. I have never been deep-throated (although that wasn't so mainstream back then) and the only time I tried anal sex with a girl we gave it up after about half an hour.

            Based on that experience, I would say that anything over 5.5" girth could conceivable be a problem with a few women, and I think once girth gets much over 6" the possibility of having trouble starts to increase significantly. But to be sure, there are tons of guys much thicker who report finding partners who have no trouble with them.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by zenjamin View Post
              Hello.
              There is such a thing as too big. Most here know that. or if they dont, they should.

              I am going to be stopping my length gains at 7. Because frankly, it would be rather horrible to fall in love, only to discover my length was hitting the back of her cervix, even when completely aroused, and causing her pain.
              Further, I have heard that legenthy guys have to take doggy style out of their arsenal. And I just could not do that as I can be a kinda dominate/aggressive lover who rather enjoys doggy/ dragon style.
              Not so, IME, for these reasons:

              1. Some women like being fucked hard with a big cock from behind (I'm an inch longer than 7 btw). I know this because I've met quite a few of them, including my current girlf.

              2. If she doesn't like being slammed to the hilt with a long cock, then just don't put it all in. I've had quite a few women with whom I've had to leave an inch or so unused, but it's not a problem, and it's actually a bit of a chest-puffer to know that she probably told her friends about the guy whose cock was so big he couldn't use it all on her.

              3. Once you get to that size, then you will learn that it is possible to go really deep without hitting the cervix (by going into her cul-de-sac). You'll probably also learn that some women love you just "tickling" her cervix with it, or grinding her really deep but slow and hard (sort of a stirring motion).

              4. I've only met half a dozen or so women who thought I was too big for them. One refused outright and offered to blow me instead and another one finished with me after a few weeks because of the pain it caused her (although she was unusually short inside and at the time I was young and fairly inexperienced, so I didn't really know what I know now). The others just worked around it, or got used to it in time (and in some cases, learned to love it, and said they would hate to have to go back to dealing with average sized penises).

              5. At 7", you may well still come across women who you can't "bottom out". For example, my girlf has an unusually long VJ, I only just "bottom out" and she loves having those really deep areas inside her stimulated, which triggers very intense orgasms. If you meet one of those women who love insanely deep penetration, then even at 7", you may be found wanting in her eyes at least.

              My philosophy is that it is better to have it and not to need it than to need it and not to have it.

              Originally posted by zenjamin View Post
              So. My next question is about girth. How much is too much? It is pretty well known that females perfer girth to length, but there has to be a line somewhere, right?

              However, is that line more flexible then length? It seems to me that, while a woman may not be able to adjust her vaginal depth, She could more easily comfortable adjust and accommodate someone of the more girthy persuasion, given time. Giving that feeling of being full.


              You see. I am currently around 5.4 in length. And girth wise, around the thickest part (the middle for some reason), I am about the same.
              I like the way my penis is proportioned, and would like to keep it that way for the most part.

              However, would 7*7 be just too much girth wise?
              Keep in mind, that the base is kinda thin, and just bulges out 8in the middle.... not sure if this would even out in clamping or not.

              What do you think would be just too much girth?
              Keep in mind, that this is not in relation to a one night stand. Assume that this is a life partner, who you could adjust to somewhat.
              5.4" in girth is already pretty thick. I think just under 5" is average.

              I'm 5.6" around, and although I've had problems getting normal sized condoms to fit, I've never had a problem with any woman who thought it was too girthy. Some have been a little on the tight side at first, and have felt a little sore afterwards (but in a good "know that I've been fucked" way, and not in a "I think I need a doctor" way)

              6" is very thick. 7" is probably going to be too much for almost all women.

              If you're going to aim for a particular size, then 8X6 seems to be considered the "Holy Grail" for endowment on these and other sites, but ultimately, the choice is yours (presuming you have the dedication and a physiology that responds to PE).

              Best of luck....
              Tylerdurden46
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              • #8
                As far as ratio between length and girth goes ... 7"x7" doesn't seem right to me. For a penis 7" long, a girth of 5.5" sounds right ! ... 6" at max.
                Starting stats : BPEL 6.25" NBPEL 5.6" EG 4.8"
                Current stats : BPEL 7" NBPEL 6.25" EG 5"
                Main Goal : BPEL 7.5" NBPEL 6.75" EG 5.5"

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                • #9
                  Well, I won't speak about length since I'm average 5.5 inch but I do have 5.9-6.00 inch girth.
                  Well, my girlfriend can take my girth without the problem vaginally, but she had to adjust a few times. Anal for her is a big NO, because it hurts her too much at 6 inch girth. I am also limited at oral sex, because she can't deep throat me because of my girth + her jaw hurts.
                  Well I'm just 5.5 inch in length but my girlfriend doesn't want me to have any longer penis even if I want to enlarge it through exercises. She just doesn't like long penises, but she does like fat ones.

                  Personally I would go to 6 inch in girth max.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by smallpackageRay View Post
                    6" would be considered large. Any woman the can comfortably handle 7" or more could also handle fisting since that is basically the size of our wrists.
                    That is not a good anaology.
                    Sure, our wrists are about 7 around. But not out firsts/ hands.

                    Originally posted by redbear52 View Post
                    Even with a head girth of "only" 5.25" and a shaft girth of around 5.5", I had more than a few girls complain of jaw fatigue when going down on me. I have never been deep-throated (although that wasn't so mainstream back then) and the only time I tried anal sex with a girl we gave it up after about half an hour.
                    Well. Im already 5.5 so I suppose anal is out for me already... Or if its not. Then one would need butt plug kits to get one adjusted.

                    It seems to me, that the body can adjust to girth morose then height. I promise you, those pornstars who take a beer can sized cock up their rump were not able to do that at first.

                    As to the oral thing.... ya. I hear ya. However, apparently, they got uesd to jaw fatigue. and enjoyed the challenge.
                    I really dont have any interest in deep throating. Even though everyone has tired. Not sure if there was success or not. I would need more length to be able to tell.... But again. Those things are really not at issue for me.
                    The issue is keeping my aesthetic proportion and providing as much pleasure as I can without hitting the cervex. or being so wide that they can not eventually comfortably accommodate me.





                    Originally posted by Tylerdurden46 View Post
                    My philosophy is that it is better to have it and not to need it than to need it and not to have it.
                    With all due respect, I disagree entirely.
                    If you ever decide you "need it" (and you will never "need" to be a long kong), you can always PE more.
                    But if you PE too much and become so long that you have to distance your pelvis from hers to keep from causing discomfort to her back walls.... Well. Then you gotta be careful the whole time and cant ravash her with that primal but close intensity she often values beyond all else.

                    You cant use the same philosophy for your dick that you do with your handgun. (though for some guys, it the same thing. An ego is an ego is an ego)

                    You cant just decide to put aside acouple inches off of your dick if you decide you dont need it. Once its there, its there for good. No matter how deep or shallow or sensitive your eventual wife turns out to be.

                    5.4" in girth is already pretty thick. I think just under 5" is average.

                    and have felt a little sore afterwards (but in a good "know that I've been fucked" way
                    Ya. Ive gotten thta too..... I love it.
                    "God. im kinda sore after last night."
                    "Oh my god. Shit! Im sorry baby. Ill be gentler next time."
                    "NO! Dont you dare! I love it!"

                    ......


                    If you're going to aim for a particular size, then 8X6 seems to be considered the "Holy Grail" for endowment on these and other sit
                    Not for me.
                    If I get married, perhaps then ill PE further to hit that impossible to predect "sweet spot" of vaginal depth. Untill then, im giong to play it mostly safe.

                    However, I think you guys may be right about 7 being just too much girth. Again, perhaps (if) once I have found a life partner, I will go beyond.
                    But for now, 7*6.25 sounds about right.


                    I just ordered an extender.
                    The plan is to minimize girth gains by focusing on the extender and an ADS.
                    But with ballooning at night, I may unintentionally increase my girth more then that to bring my length to 7.... But who knows.



                    PS:
                    It would be good to have a womans opinion on this.

                    Has anyone ever been in a long term relationship where the male was just too thick (not too long), even after months of regular sex? I have never heard of an instance like this. Though there are plenty of such examples for length.
                    zenjamin
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                    Last edited by zenjamin; 11-21-2010, 06:34 PM.

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                    • #11
                      I'm currently 7.25 bpel and 6.1eg and my wife wants me to stop girth gains due to her not being able to get it in her mouth without discomfort. However, she absolutely loves the girth when we are having sex!
                      4/1/2010 Beginning BPEL-6.2"/EG-5.2"
                      Current BPEL-8.75"/EG-6.5"
                      Goal- BPEL-9.0"/EG-6.5"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by zenjamin View Post

                        With all due respect, I disagree entirely.
                        If you ever decide you "need it" (and you will never "need" to be a long kong), you can always PE more.
                        But if you PE too much and become so long that you have to distance your pelvis from hers to keep from causing discomfort to her back walls.... Well. Then you gotta be careful the whole time and cant ravash her with that primal but close intensity she often values beyond all else.

                        You cant use the same philosophy for your dick that you do with your handgun. (though for some guys, it the same thing. An ego is an ego is an ego)

                        You cant just decide to put aside acouple inches off of your dick if you decide you dont need it. Once its there, its there for good. No matter how deep or shallow or sensitive your eventual wife turns out to be.
                        With all due respect, until and unless you have an 8" dick, then it's all assumption and speculation so far as you are concerned.

                        1. Sometimes women do "need" a bit more length. Well, perhaps not "need", but "want" or "enjoy". My girlf is a case in point. She has a long VJ, and until she met me, she had never experienced the sort of deep seated, intense orgasms which she has with me, as a result of me hitting her fornixes. She has had perfectly good sex before, but now she says this has taken her to another level. If you happen to meet a woman like that, then good luck with telling her that she has to wait a year or two until you've PE'd an extra inch onto your wang. If you ever have that conversation, then please do post it on here

                        2. True, with some women, and in some positions, maximal, balls deep, slamming penetration is not possible. However, this is nowhere near as much of a problem as some people make out - other positions are often perfectly fine for full penetration, or you can use a little bit of light and shade and lay off the hard pounding in positions that cause her problems. This "anything over X inches is too big/a waste" is an oft repeated mantra on PE sites, and TBH, I think it is a form of "comfort blanket" reasoning. For one thing, you can work around it, if you, to coin a cliche, "know how to use it". For another, most women display a remarkable ability to adapt and not only do they get used to a big dick, they actually find they enjoy it a great deal ("Now I know what all the fuss is about!", and variations on that theme is a phrase I have heard from my partners on numerous occasions). Perhaps dicks that are a bit bigger than mine (ie: 8.5" +) might cause major problems on a regular basis, but IME, the vast majority of women will not view an 8" cock as too big, and in fact, will enjoy the manifold benefits it can bring to a sexual relationship. I know this for a fact, because I have experienced it for myself.

                        3. My dick size is natural, not the result of PE. Hence, I've had a fairly long time to get used to it and to learn how to put it to good use.

                        Still, you came here for advice, and it's yours to accept or ignore as you wish.
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                        • #13
                          I thing that anything between 5 and 6 girth is ideal for most women, but all women are different, but realistically speaking that is what I would think would be the comfort zone for most women, 7 seems just unreal, I would think it would be like fisting at that point, considering the average mans wrist is 7 in circumfrence.
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                          • #14
                            Tyler, Im not going to argue with you about this.
                            I have made my decision on length, as it suits my personal values and life.

                            Im not going to break out all my research and detail my personal experiences just to argue against your ego.

                            You have a deep girlfriend who loves your long penis. Great for you.... in fact, perfect for you. May we all be so lucky.
                            But I am not developing my penis to bring your girlfriend maximum pleasure. Though if you keep on pushing the point in a thread about girth, perhaps I will. :P


                            Wolf, I saw that comparison before and addressed it. I also mentioned that I was now shooting for around the 6 range. On the very first page.



                            This is the female perspectives board. Any females actually want to jump in?
                            Batwoman? anybody?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by zenjamin View Post
                              Tyler, Im not going to argue with you about this.
                              I have made my decision on length, as it suits my personal values and life.

                              Im not going to break out all my research and detail my personal experiences just to argue against your ego.

                              You have a deep girlfriend who loves your long penis. Great for you.... in fact, perfect for you. May we all be so lucky.
                              But I am not developing my penis to bring your girlfriend maximum pleasure. Though if you keep on pushing the point in a thread about girth, perhaps I will. :P


                              Wolf, I saw that comparison before and addressed it. I also mentioned that I was now shooting for around the 6 range. On the very first page.



                              This is the female perspectives board. Any females actually want to jump in?
                              Batwoman? anybody?
                              Mate, your posts so far indicate a certain arrogance and a bit of a "know it all" attitude. However, i suspect that you are young and/or inexperienced, so i won't make a big deal out of it, but i will respond.

                              In reply,

                              1. Your "research": Let me guess - your research consisted of a bit of googling and perhaps asking a few girls for info. Remember that a great deal of information on the net, especially on forums, is recycled and secondhand. What happens is that certain posters with "rep" or a high post count have their opinions accepted as incontrovertible truth, simply by virtue of their popularity. Then people who either seek acceptance into the group, or simply out of a desire to help others, then repeat these opinions across that forum and others on the same subject matter. As you may have noticed, most human beings are actually "sheeple", and the weak follow the rest of the flock. I've seen this in action on other forums (completely different subject matter) where all sorts of off beam advice was being bandied around across half a dozen message boards and blogs by numerous contributors. I managed to trace all this information back to a single source, who turned out to be a self-appointed and unqualified expert. I, who happens to be a genuine, qualified and published expert on the subject, spent a lot of time and energy trying to debunk this nonsense, until it got too much like playing whackamole and i gave up. What i am saying is that the internet can sometimes turn out to be a very small place and don't be fooled into believing something is true just because it is a widely propogated belief. Truth is not a democracy or a popularity contest.

                              2. Your "experience": Unless you have an 8" penis and have used it numerous times in different sexual encounters, then you have no relevant experience to speak of.

                              3. Batwoman's opinion: I don't want to prejudge her response, but what i will say, regardless of whether she supports or rebuts my arguments, is that hers will only be a singular and subjective opinion. She seems sensible and experienced, and her posts are well balanced, but I don't think she purports to speak for all women, and nor should she.

                              4. My girlf: Your comment displays a certain immaturity. However, in the highly unlikely event that you were to ever have sex with her (and if you knew her, you'd want to, 'cos she's a real hottie), then it would be a clear case of sending a boy to do a man's job, in every sense.

                              In summary, i don't think you are seeking advice or the benefit of people's experience - you just want to have your pre-formed opinions validated.

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