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  • Penis size: The only thing that matters?

    When it comes to sex. Not relationships.

    I was in a late evening hookah bar reading Lolita and a pair of women and one of their boyfriends took a table next to mine. They were pretty loud and boisterous. I eavesdropped occasionally, mostly unintentionally as I was trying to read through my book. Eventually the woman who wasn't with her boyfriend talked about how boring sex with her ex was. The boyfriend, a bit drunk, bothered her for details. His loud insistence eventually persuaded her to list off a couple of reasons, and when she landed on size there was a laugh from the group. The man grew noticeably quiet after that and the subject immediately changed. It was an awkward moment for the group, or at least somewhat awkward.

    I've always thought that there is little attention paid to how frequently and how much "size" discussions occur. When men talk about it it's either in some sickly erotic BDSM/Exhibitionist/Exploitation standpoint or deafness/ignorance. I'm pretty sure that it's always been a topic for women and it's frequently mentioned and/or bragged about. The difference is that in the 21st century it is now much more in the open, and re-emphasized as more important. It shows a power shift dynamic from men to women when it comes to open lewdness.

    I guess you might say turnabout is fair play. And there's a point to that. Women are frequently displayed in open sexual nature on billboards and in movies. I think this is especially noticeable in the film industry; I can think of four male actors who still work who are some of the greatest at their craft, but only one woman of a similar caliber (Meryl Streep). However, it seems to me that the quality of this openness is fundamentally different.

    As Jason Segel said in an interview for his movie "Forgetting Sarah Marshall," if one looks at any listing of porn videos you'd find an assortment of women, ranging from very young to very, very old, from fat to thin, small titted to big titted, pretty to ugly, but unless you're watching something exploitative the man almost always has an enormously big dick. This consistency becomes depressing only when one considers the inherent inequality that is on display. Any woman, regardless of "what" she is, can get laid. The same cannot be said for any man as a universal prerogative.

    The conclusion is thus: Women are to be loved, men are to be judged. The formal factor that determines this judgement is penis size. A great lover can come with any equipment. A good go at foreplay can do wonders in the bedroom. However, having a big dick automatically qualifies a man to be put into the universally loved category while not having one means that the entitlement that comes with that is simply not available to men.

    Now, usually men place a bigger emphasis on sex than most women. So it probably means less to the average woman to be in this universally loved category, but that probably makes it worse for an average man who does put an emphasis on sex (read: nearly every man). A woman has access to this category (sex), but has a choice on how much to partake in it.

    I don't think that women grasp this concept. The resentment doesn't come from the fact that women find big dicks attractive or sexy like some (and it's only some) men find big breasts attractive. It's that it's a signaling component of life experience that entitles some over others.

    Meanwhile, the life experiences removed from women (like the military, or sports) are corrected through societal measures to promote an umbrella of inclusion. I am not indicting this social correction either way. I'm merely saying that to see inclusive measures help one sex and not help the other becomes corrosive on the spirit. Why would one want to live in a world where you are judged undesirable or incapable? Especially for something that means so much as sex does?

    The answers seem to be twofold:
    1. Sex doesn't mean that much. Which is a pill that nobody really believes in.

    or

    2. This is just the way things are. Which puts questions on the extent or value of equality in society.

    I realize that I'm significantly generalizing here from just a sample discussion that I didn't really know the context of. I guess I think that the penis size issue in the minds of women and men is on a different wavelength. If there are discussions to be had on collective morality and right and wrong then I think it's something that should at least be discussed. If not, that's fine too, nobody has a responsibility to assuage an idea if they don't want too. But for me, I find it hard to justify existence in the face of such discussions sometimes.

    I do PE for two reasons: The first is out of a fear of losing out to evolution and life experience assuming the unfairness of the world and sheer violence accompanied. The second is out of a desire to simply be the best I can for the women I'm with. I think that the latter is the healthier path, but the former seems to be what actually is. If so, PE becomes becomes one of the few threads with which I can justify my existence. Am I wrong?

  • #2
    I know what you mean (last bit).
    PE should be done for yourself. Not anyone else.
    Starting Size (09/2009): ~7"BPEL x ~5" MSEG
    Most Recent Measurement (08/13/2012): 8"BPEL x 5.5"MSEG
    Final Goal: When I'm told to stop.
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    • #3
      Be the best you can for the woman you're with? Then love her, take care of her, make her laugh, provide for her, be kind to her and silly things like that. Your dick size is way down the list!
      The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CUSP82 View Post
        Be the best you can for the woman you're with? Then love her, take care of her, make her laugh, provide for her, be kind to her and silly things like that. Your dick size is way down the list!
        All true, but as he pointed out:

        Originally posted by Trotsky slaying thedragon View Post
        When it comes to sex. Not relationships.
        So I think me means more a relationship based solemnly on sex, or one-nighters.

        -UYN-
        19/04/2011
        FG: 4.25" +0.45
        FL: 5.19" +0.69
        EG: 4.75" +0.45
        BPFSL: 7.69" +1.58
        NBPEL: 7.25" +1.19
        BPEL: 7.677"+1.757

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        • #5
          I think the internet as changed the way some women perceive dick size, they have more access and exposure to seeing large dicks and their minds then become "i want one of those" (mainly younger women 25years or less) although im not stereotyping women at all.

          It has probably also changed the way men feel about their dicks, they'll feel pressured to get that bigger dick that they think women want and work on improving it.

          The internet has had a major role to play no doubt.

          It will be very interesting in maybe a decades time to see what the average penis size is, i bet it will have increased by as much as an inch.
          Starting 16/11/2013

          Erect:
          5.25" BPEL
          4.7" MG-erect

          Long Term Goal:
          7.5" BPEL 5.5" MG-erect

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Stumpy1981 View Post
            I think the internet as changed the way some women perceive dick size, they have more access and exposure to seeing large dicks and their minds then become "i want one of those" (mainly younger women 25years or less) although im not stereotyping women at all.

            It has probably also changed the way men feel about their dicks, they'll feel pressured to get that bigger dick that they think women want and work on improving it.

            The internet has had a major role to play no doubt.

            It will be very interesting in maybe a decades time to see what the average penis size is, i bet it will have increased by as much as an inch.
            You mean the real average penis size will increase by an inch!? As in not what people say the have, but what they actually have?


            -UYN-
            19/04/2011
            FG: 4.25" +0.45
            FL: 5.19" +0.69
            EG: 4.75" +0.45
            BPFSL: 7.69" +1.58
            NBPEL: 7.25" +1.19
            BPEL: 7.677"+1.757

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            • #7
              Sex without relationships is empty!
              The world's still a toy if you just stay a boy!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Stumpy1981 View Post
                I think the internet as changed the way some women perceive dick size, they have more access and exposure to seeing large dicks and their minds then become "i want one of those" (mainly younger women 25years or less) although im not stereotyping women at all.

                It has probably also changed the way men feel about their dicks, they'll feel pressured to get that bigger dick that they think women want and work on improving it.

                The internet has had a major role to play no doubt.

                It will be very interesting in maybe a decades time to see what the average penis size is, i bet it will have increased by as much as an inch.
                While I know both men and women look at porn, I think the above has hurt men even more (IE- I don't buy that a large % of women are watching porn and saying "I wish I had that 9 inches'

                That last sentence, I cannot believe...Sorry. That goes against every normal scientific and evolutionary process.
                Hockey_NY
                Senior Member
                Last edited by Hockey_NY; 03-12-2011, 01:18 PM.

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                • #9
                  it might seem far fetched but if men feel pressured into having a bigger dick, doesnt it seem logical that they will seek out places like PE gym to get that bigger dick, the internet isnt going away so the information is there for men to use and maybe more and more people will start PEing?

                  All im saying is it'll be interesting in a decades time to look back and see how much the average (real)size has changed?, isnt that food for though...the internets effect on penis size
                  Starting 16/11/2013

                  Erect:
                  5.25" BPEL
                  4.7" MG-erect

                  Long Term Goal:
                  7.5" BPEL 5.5" MG-erect

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by NP97 View Post
                    I know what you mean (last bit).
                    PE should be done for yourself. Not anyone else.
                    Old Gym Log - Tracking progress with the iLogPE App
                    "Wherever you go, there you are. Stay sexy, my friends."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Stumpy1981 View Post
                      it might seem far fetched but if men feel pressured into having a bigger dick, doesnt it seem logical that they will seek out places like PE gym to get that bigger dick, the internet isnt going away so the information is there for men to use and maybe more and more people will start PEing?

                      All im saying is it'll be interesting in a decades time to look back and see how much the average (real)size has changed?, isnt that food for though...the internets effect on penis size
                      Thousands of men do seek out places like PEGym. But I can't see it being main stream to a huge extent. Many men who are average or any given size are perfectly confident and please the ladies just fine w/o having to modify themselves.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Stumpy1981 View Post
                        it might seem far fetched but if men feel pressured into having a bigger dick, doesnt it seem logical that they will seek out places like PE gym to get that bigger dick, the internet isnt going away so the information is there for men to use and maybe more and more people will start PEing?

                        All im saying is it'll be interesting in a decades time to look back and see how much the average (real)size has changed?, isnt that food for though...the internets effect on penis size
                        Nope. Men have wanted to be muscular and big for several decades. Still most people don't look like the Spartans in the movie 300. People don't have the dedication.

                        -UYN-
                        19/04/2011
                        FG: 4.25" +0.45
                        FL: 5.19" +0.69
                        EG: 4.75" +0.45
                        BPFSL: 7.69" +1.58
                        NBPEL: 7.25" +1.19
                        BPEL: 7.677"+1.757

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                        • #13
                          Apologies for posting my thoughts on social pressures the internet may cause...i'll just remember to focus on my log and forget any other topic of conversations and leave it to the "educated"
                          Starting 16/11/2013

                          Erect:
                          5.25" BPEL
                          4.7" MG-erect

                          Long Term Goal:
                          7.5" BPEL 5.5" MG-erect

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by UYN View Post
                            Nope. Men have wanted to be muscular and big for several decades. Still most people don't look like the Spartans in the movie 300. People don't have the dedication.

                            -UYN-
                            Several decades? How about since the beginning of human civilization. Look back at ancient greek and roman statues. They adored the male figure and were very careful in the level of detail - esp. in the male genitalia. It was and still is a source of immense pride and ego in men.
                            Old Gym Log - Tracking progress with the iLogPE App
                            "Wherever you go, there you are. Stay sexy, my friends."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Stumpy1981 View Post
                              Apologies for posting my thoughts on social pressures the internet may cause...i'll just remember to focus on my log and forget any other topic of conversations and leave it to the "educated"
                              They are just opinions, as mine are, and you are entitled to them. Don't fret

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