Why doesnt everyone use devices?

[dawkins Member Find all posts View Profile Close dawkins]

I was doing manual PE for about a month for fun, then 2 months hardcore. Nothing. I have been doing a hardcore manual/bathmate workout for 2 and a half weeks and have seen gains. I don't understand why everyone wouldn't use devices. Its really not that expensive to get one device and it seems to make a world of difference. You cant stretch manually like u can with an extender. You cant expand like you can with a clamp or a pump. Whether its girth or length, it seems like the best gains come from devices. So why doesn't everyone use a device? And why do people still use manual techniques even when they have a device? I keep hearing that combining manual and devices is the best, but sometimes I wonder if I should just scrap all my manual stuff and just use devices for everything.

Let me know what you guys think.

[seahawksam Member Find all posts View Profile Close seahawksam]

well for me, two reasons. 1) I'm not looking for huge gains...and 2) I have a wife and kids (teens) in a small home with very little privacy. Sure, I could figure out some way of hiding a Bathmate but it would be hard (heh) and not worth the stress of them finding it. So much chaos in the morning getting ready for work and school..in and out of bathrooms. We're a very open family about all kinds of issues (sex, drugs, etc). Explaining to them what a Bathmate is for....isn't one of them, however.

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

It depends on the routines and goals. for example if you hang you shouldnt pump, the edema and lymph fluids make it hard to hang propperly, so many hangers clamp and or jelque with thire routine. Many pumpers will pump and do manual stretches. I gained 3/4s of BPEL and !/2 inch of MEG doing that combo.

There is also time and privacy issues for many. If I didnt have to work for a living and I had no life I would probably pump then throw on an extender but I have a life so I cant. It is easier for busy guys to stretch periodically through out the day instead of try to wear an extender and monitor it often.

Many guys plain and simply gain like weeds with thier hands so they choose to stay with that. It is never going to be one single answer or reason for this question. I myself love devices, i will get an extender when I have the time or schedule but for now I am a hanger but I am on a decon from it doing a girth routine.

[Padawan787 Moderator ReservePEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Padawan787]

Because it isn't strictly necessary.

But mainly because the majority of people rightfully want to see if PE actually works before investing money in equipment. When I initially found the site I thought that it was all bullshit, so I started a manual routine out of curiosity, now that I know it works I've invested in a hanger.

[JoshLuvins Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JoshLuvins]

you can hella injure yourself via hanging compared to stretching/jelqing and pumping sometimes if you get carried away... cheap? 100+ bucks for a bathmate is far from cheap when youre a college student with a part time job, your ass ever lived on 150 bucks a week -_- theres more important things to blow cash on than a bathmate, i would love to save up and am currently trying to browse yardsales for cheap stuff i could resell for profit and it isnt going to well.. but all in all i think manual exercises can do pretty well and a 100 dollar pump is not cheap by most standards, im thinking about a 20 dollar pump and a 10 dollar sleeve and im reconsidering as thats 30 bucks, im pretty much blowing a tank of gas on something that i dont really need

[Nachos87 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Nachos87]

Many guys plain and simply gain like weeds with thier hands so they choose to stay with that.

But, I'm planning to get a Bathmate if I don't see any girth gains anytime soon.

[donjelqer76 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close donjelqer76]

I personally love incorporating devices and own pretty much everything on the market. Though I can understand why some stay away from them between the price, abundance of scams out there and the ability to gain without them.

To each their own!

[diesel225 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close diesel225]

i tried manuals they never worked for me. i think some might gain easily from manuals while others like my self have tried 100 up 700 jelq at a time. As well i had blood come out of the urethra 2 times from heavy jelqing so that king of stopped that and i got bad erection level. hanging is great if you have the privacy to do it i have a 5 year old so extending is best for me and pumping both things i can do with out interruption. money isn't an issue when it comes to pe nothing cost so much i can't pony up the cash i go for the best stuff that offers the most comfort and cause the least amount of hassle. i also found it a pain in the ass to jelq with out interruption and its messy lube everywhere my kid or wife seem to always bother me when i was in the bathroom for 30 to 45 min.

[misterK13 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close misterK13]

When i finished the newbie routine i will take an extender.

[bahamaboner71 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bahamaboner71]

If I was single and had no 3 kids running around the house, I probably would use a bath mate or would be hanging in front of my tv in my living room.

[Steve23 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Steve23]

You've only done 3 months of PE and in PE land that means you just finished your beginner routine, don't expect some sort of amazing gains just from that, people can gain 1"+ inches from just manual PE, most of the top performers used only manual PE, and some people don't want to spend money, or use annoying devices like extenders for 4+ hours a day.

[Glamissand1 Senior Member Member of the Month March 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close Glamissand1]

It depends on the routines and goals. for example if you hang you shouldnt pump, the edema and lymph fluids make it hard to hang propperly, so many hangers clamp and or jelque with thire routine. Many pumpers will pump and do manual stretches. I gained 3/4s of BPEL and !/2 inch of MEG doing that combo.

There is also time and privacy issues for many. If I didnt have to work for a living and I had no life I would probably pump then throw on an extender but I have a life so I cant. It is easier for busy guys to stretch periodically through out the day instead of try to wear an extender and monitor it often.

Many guys plain and simply gain like weeds with thier hands so they choose to stay with that. It is never going to be one single answer or reason for this question. I myself love devices, i will get an extender when I have the time or schedule but for now I am a hanger but I am on a decon from it doing a girth routine.

What would be the issues with the BM+hanging combo? Like you cant get enough grip so you end up sliding onto the head?

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

The lymph fluid build up from pumping makes it very hard to grasp the internals of the penis, it also makes it painfull. I have tried and was ok at low weight but once you start hanging with higher weights it hurts!

[donjelqer76 Retired ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close donjelqer76]

The lymph fluid build up from pumping makes it very hard to grasp the internals of the penis, it also makes it painfull. I have tried and was ok at low weight but once you start hanging with higher weights it hurts!

+1
I've experimented with this as well with the exact same end result

[Glamissand1 Senior Member Member of the Month March 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close Glamissand1]

So at like say, 5lbs should be ok?