Permanent damage by constricting the penis?

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[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

If there is a vascular problem caused by that rubber band well that remains to be seen (and tested for). I don't care how desparate you may have been but putting a rubber band around your dick to cut off the blood supply was not a very good idea.I would not, if I were you, even think of clamping ever! Why not try pe, as in JP's 90 day beginners program. Follow it TO THE LETTER! Don't go off getting strange idea or deviate from it. Make sure you do your kegals and give it 3 months time.If you see even the smallest bit of improvement than keep going. I wouldn't even think about maturbation or sex or using your dick at all until and if you see signs of improvement. You may have done damage;now is the time to find out if that damage is permanent.If it isn't, then the program will help but it will be a long road. Just don't ever put anything around your dick to constict blood flow again. If you want to do that then you might as well cut it off!

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As far as your chances of permanent damage, I wouldn't say it's permanent, but it's going to take a long time to correct. The body has wonderful regenerative powers but those things take time. From everything I have read on clamping and constriction, anything over 15-20 minutes is too long. I'd try to stay away from the rubber bands as that seems to be compounding the issue. There are various types of cock rings out there that are not as restrictive, keep your cock good and solid and doesn't reduce bloodflow. I fooled around with one years ago - if I come across it online, I'll post the link. It could help.

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It's not that I don't believe in it. It's just that you already did damage with a form of clamping why mess when you're not healed?

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The ring I was referring to isnt't even a "ring" - it's more of a C-clamp that fit over the top of the penis near the base. The bottom part allowed the CS to be fully exposed - it clamped the CC at the sidesamd the top part had a small ridge that didn't clamp or impeded the dorsal nerve/vein. The clamp was actually pretty good but it fit me a waaaaay too snug - one size does not fit all.

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A very long standing treatment for erectile dysfunction has been to induce erection with a vacuum pump and immediately apply a constrictive ring to maintain it. The general recommendation for use of cockrings for whatever purpose has been to limit use to no more than 20 minutes, however.

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[Panther Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Panther]

Whether you did damage with the bands has yet to be proved. However I'm totally in agreement with CUSP82. Clamping should never result in a numb purple dick. That is too much time with restricted blood flow. Lack of oxygen to the penis can cause damage.

I'd recommend the 90 routine with no sex or masturbation during that time as mentioned above. After a healing period you may be able to use the rubber bands but cut back on the time. Take 'em off after 20 minutes and let your unit get some new blood in it.

[blink2000 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close blink2000]

The downside is that after a while my penis turns purple and feels numb. After ejecualation (which might take half an hour) my penis is often very cold and dark purple. I even got hemosiderin spots on my penis. My capacity to get an erection this way however stayed good and the health of my penis didn't seem to deteriorate.

Never go more than 20 minutes without oxygenating your tissues. No exceptions. You could end up doing irreparable damage. If your penis is blue or purple, or even slightly numb, stop what you're doing. As soon as you hit the 19 or 20 minute mark you should have immediately removed the rubber-band & re-oxygenated your tissues.

My question now is: how big is the chance that I have permanently damaged my penis by constricting my penis several times a week for a couple of years? In that case the PF exersises ofcourse won't do a thing... I read on this forum that some people do a lot of clamping exercises. Have any you permanenty damaged yourself by doing these constriction exercises?

What you did went beyond what even the most hardcore PEers ever do. No one goes more than 20 minutes without circulation. Regardless of the chance, you should try everything you can to restore yourself without surgery. I'm sure you are trying & its clear that's probably how you found this forum.

Here's a few supplements that might help:

Supplements
The 5 G's for EQ
Erection Tea
& I use green tea with honey (it seems to raise my libido)

Here we call improving the pelvic floor muscles "stamina work". Kegels, super kegels, towel raises & reverse kegels all fall into this category. Here's a few links on the subject.

Stamina:
The Importance of Stamina Work
Kegels
Towel Raises - this link is for future reference, I'm being optimistic!

A few guys here have come back from the absolute brink of ED. (Eventually, more of them will probably comment in this thread).

If I were you, even if my chance was 1 in a million. I would try. If everything fails, you can go the prosthesis route. But I think you would agree, that should be an absolute last resort. At least that's my view on things.

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I would listen to Blink!

[diamondback Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close diamondback]

Rex, I advise staying away from the rubber bands. I do something I call "tubing" which is kind of an extended cock ring. The tube is a set diameter and relies on slowing down but not stopping the flow of blood from the penis. The penis shaft is stretched between the pubic bone and the flare of the glans and the portion of the penis extending beyond the tube slowly expands and extends beyond its normal flaccid or errect potential. By experimenting with tube diameter and length I can wear the tube for hours but....I monitor the color and sensitivity of my glans continually. Any loss of feeling or troubling change in color and I get out immediately.

A rubber band continues to constrict the penis and as stated above reducing oxygen below a certain level will cause the death of cells and perhaps perhaps permanent damage to your penis. If your going to use some sort of constriction, experiment with adjustable cock rings or make some yourself, not rubber bands.

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I have endured ED for over 10 years and have used a 1/2" rubber band (doubled over) around my whole package for most of this time. By placing it around the whole package, the constriction is not as tight as when it is around just your shaft. I learned early on, however, not to keep it on for more than 15 minutes. I also use a Pearl Beaded Cock Ring (have ordered at least five over the 10 years) from adamandeve.com. A&E offers close to 100 diferent styles of cock rings. It will come up if you search for "beaded cock ring" The beads allow a small amount of circulation so you can wear it (I place it around my whole unit once it has stretched out several times) for up to 30 minutes and more after you become conditioned.

I started pumping about 10 months ago, and generate nice hard erections (Usually, however, I need to take Viagra first to maintain the erection for more than 10 minutes) which I maintain with either the band or the cock ring. Just this week I started using just a stiff 1/2" (I think silicone) cock ring which I slip down to the base of my pumped, lubed shaft which has maintained a 7+ erection without Viagra and 8+ with Viagra. I have only used this latter method for a week so I can't offer a strong recommendation , yet.